Podcast Season 3 Episode 9


Title: Final Frontier

In this episode: David Braben creates a low-cost Linux machine. Matt Zimmerman leaves Canonical while Mark Shuttleworth wants 200 million Ubuntu users within 4 years. Discover our discoveries, hear the latest conversion stories from TuxRadar and join us on IRC.

What's in the show:

  • News:
  • Discovery of the week:
    • Mike:
    • Andrew:
      • Chris Eubank was a superb boxer and an amazing entertainer.
    • Jonathan:
      • The 'at' command will take 'teatime' as an argument.
    • Graham:
      • Robert Ladyman recommends using the 'arp' command to assign a local IP address to a device on your network whose address you can't easily discover.
        eg: arp -s 00-AA-21-4A-AB-30
  • You Dare Us:
  • Speak Your Brains:
      We respond to both of your emails. If you'd like this section to continue email mike.saunders@futurenet.com today.
  • Open Ballot: what is Linux's killer feature?

  • Special offer: subscribe to Linux Format magazine and save up to 40%

Presenters: Andrew Gregory, Graham Morrison, Jonathan Roberts and Mike Saunders.

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Your comments

I had no idea Chris Eubank

I had no idea Chris Eubank knew so much about competing notions of humanity in late post-modernity.

(I do hope my comment caused no offence, it was said in a spirit of brotherly love)

If you'd this section to continue


Re: If you'd this section to continue

Thanks Rhakios! Fixed!

No one last thing, boo hisss

No one last thing, boo hisss


you are at the centre of the Universe

only ever a few clicks away

Thank you 4 reintroducing me to what I now know is called Elite. I played that game on my C64 until the tape broke. I forgot what it was called and have been looking for it for years. The David Braben link sorted it :-) Hello oolite

Graham, it was Morkin

Morkin, son of Luxor the Moonprince if I recall correctly. I think having Morkin smash Doomdark's crown was one of the two ways you could complete the game.

Like Braben with Frontier, it's incredible how much Mike Singleton could squeeze into 64k of RAM back in the day. I vaguely recall reading an interview with him in which he bemoaned the size of games these days and how developers had no idea how to make efficient use of RAM. :)

Re: Graham, it was Morkin

Thanks Huw. It seems like this podcast is getting all nostalgic for old games, but I loved Doomdark's Revenge.

I played the game with Oliver Frey's map of the Icemark in-front of me and used small coloured squares cut from a cereal box to represent my various armies and factions. I moved them all slowly forward onto the Plains of Varudrun for the final battle (although I never got that far). Sunday afternoons were never the same again.

What about a

Nostalgic game Round up in LFX?

Interpretation of search data

Regarding the falling numbers of searches for "ubuntu", it could be the result of ubuntu being successful. It could be that those who have searched in the past for ubuntu have installed it and now just use it and upgrade with each release, without needing to search for "ubuntu" on google.

Alternative to skype

During the podcast Graham mentioned using alternatives to skype. I've tried in the past, for example using twinkle and gizmo, but they never seemed to work reliably.

So here's a dare: I dare the tuxradar team to use only SIP softphones for voice communication for the period between podcasts.


I dare you to make a Tuxradar/LinuxFormat android podcast app. Take it as challenge to see who's app gets the most downloads and as a good linux android tutorial. Maybe you cam even use it for a Linux format article?!?!?!?!


Let microsoft get hold of linux (lawyer terms hold) and it will fly hight in BSOD, and every one will love it. Why is it that linux geeks do everything to prevent it?!?!?!? I think that if you create, real, BSOD screens in linux everyone will feel at home. Most people use a browser and talk about the system they use as something like:
many- "wow...you use IE LOL"
many-"you should use chrome :P"
anonymous-"yep, never breaks and is super fast"
justGeek-"wooooooow, give me firefox 2 any time"
JustGeeg-"stupid you anonymous ass"
justGeek-"firefox 3 is a downgrade to firefox 2"
many- "I just installed firefox 4 should I downgrade?"
JustGeek-"can you open faceSomething?"
JustGeek-"ROFL as I isntall it"
many-"I just found out that Chrome as games"
granny-"is it fast??? my pc takes ages to boot"
granny-"not really, don't know what BSOD means!!!"
JustGeek-"do still use XPerience??? damn your stupid old fart"
JustGeek-"Just how old are you??? if you had bought Viiiisti you would have a better looking BSOD.
JustGeek-"Don't worry, it's just the pc telling you that you did something wrong"
many-"BSOD in the pc I was using...I'm so stupid to the point that I crash my pc...:("
JustGeek-"I bought viiiim7, fast as a donkey. never seen nothing like it"
granny-"should I upgrade?!?!??!"
JustGeek-"obviously, since your not getting the proper pretty BSOD"
granny-"BSOD is about firecrack, jungleexplore or car finish texture??"
many-"lolol, JustGeek this old fart doesn't even know WHAT LINUX IS"



That was the best comment ever!

Getting the IP address of a box using ARP

So, ARP is a cache of the MAC addresses of anything your device can see on the local network. If your device is on the same subnet as you, you can run

arp -an

This will return a bundle of lines like this:

? (a.b.c.d) at 00:00:00:00:00:00 [ether] on eth0

The a.b.c.d is the IP address of the box you're looking for, and 00:00:00:00:00:00 is the mac address you've got.

So... you can do arp -an | grep xx:xx (the last two hex digits of the MAC address you're looking for - the first six hex characters are generic to the network adaptor, while the last 6 should be unique).

The arp -s command seems to basically force your machine to hunt out the mac address rather than the IP address for it's connection.

Granny's Garden

There is an interesting write-up on Wikipedia. A walk down memory lane if there ever was one.

Podcast newb

You know this is the first time i've ever downloaded/listened to a podcast.
Found it very interesting, i'm a subscriber to LXF and now just downloaded Google Listen for my Android phone and subscribed to the Tuxradar podcast.

Really like the idea of the David Braben mini computer, could be just what schools need!

There was a point i wanted to make, but i can't remember what it was.. guess i'll have to listen again.

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