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Buying a new laptop.

Postby MartyBartfast » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:06 pm

Hi folks,
In the next few weeks I'll be buying a new laptop, it will almost certainly come with WIndows 8 'cos that's what they sell. I'd like to have it dual boot Linux & Windows; the last time I did this was back in the XP days and it was easy, but I'm wondering how easy it will be with a new bit of kit; is UEFI going to cause me grief?

Anyone got any useful pointers/hints/advice ?


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Postby johnhudson » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:33 pm

You can get a pure Linux laptop from

If you get something with Windows 8 on, the distros that offer dual boot with UEFI mostly provide guides on how to do it.

And, no, if you use a distro that supports UEFI boot, you shouldn't have any grief.
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Postby ajgreeny » Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:50 am

If you want a machine without Windows it is still possible, though not necessarily as easy.

for a start, though I am sure there are many others.
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Re: Buying a new laptop.

Postby Nuke » Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:49 pm

MartyBartfast wrote:is UEFI going to cause me grief?

My understanding is that the "secure boot" part of UEFI, although on by default, can be turned off. If I had a UEFI PC I would do so.

The fact that secure boot can be turned off has been used (by MS and others) to argue that the Linux world should accept it without argument. But I am opposed to it in principle because it is an obstacle to Joe Public trying out Linux (eg from a live DVD cover disk) and perhaps sticking with it. ["Whaaat??! Turn off a security feature??? I'll catch viruses, no way!!! Anyway, how would I do it?"]. This is exactly what Microsoft want. In addition to that, last I heard was that some major Linux ditros like Red Hat are paying a fee to MS for a passcode (or something like that) in order that they might be booted under secure boot.

However, we are techies here, aren't we, and should not be phased by altering settings in the BIOS (or whatever it is called these days), and anyway malware in boot sectors is a non-problem with Linux (and arguably not even in Windows these days).
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