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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:57 pm    Post subject: RE: ... in a universe far away, and Climate Change (possibly Reply with quote

I don't really like FWSE for general use, it sounds too rude to say to my maiden aunt.

I hereby propose the verb, to googol. This does two nice things:

a) corrects the original spelling error in "google", so the verb does mean to search through literally 10 to the power of 100 possibilities.

b) avoids the trademark stupidity (while sounding as though it doesn't Twisted Evil).

But I'm still not letting on (though I might suggest that you think about yield and p/e ratio).
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:04 pm    Post subject: RE: ... in a universe far away, and Climate Change (possibly Reply with quote

Oh and on the subject of destroying ancient civilizations, let us not forget that many of the ancient civilizations that we destroyed had already destroyed the ones before them - or would have if the earlier one had not wiped itself out all on its own.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:40 pm    Post subject: RE: ... in a universe far away, and Climate Change (possibly Reply with quote

So you're saying the Maya did for the Olmec?

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:02 pm    Post subject: RE: ... in a universe far away, and Climate Change (possibly Reply with quote

Well, apart from the fact that the Maya kicked off around 600 years before the Olmec.... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:52 pm    Post subject: RE: ... in a universe far away, and Climate Change (possibly Reply with quote

Ahem, check your history, the Olmec civilisation began its rise to prominence around 1200BC, Mayan urbanised civilsation didn't begin until around 300BC.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:33 pm    Post subject: RE: ... in a universe far away, and Climate Change (possibly Reply with quote

True. But "preclassic" Mayan settlements on the Pacific coast go back as far as 1800 BC.

It's just a matter of checking your history, Rhakios. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:31 pm    Post subject: RE: ... in a universe far away, and Climate Change (possibly Reply with quote

As we were talking about civilisation, rather than linguistic/cultural groups, I'll stick with my facts. Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:18 pm    Post subject: RE: ... in a universe far away, and Climate Change (possibly Reply with quote

Are you saying that the early Mayans were uncivilised?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:21 pm    Post subject: RE: ... in a universe far away, and Climate Change (possibly Reply with quote

What do we know about civilized? Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:30 pm    Post subject: RE: ... in a universe far away, and Climate Change (possibly Reply with quote

We take baths at least that was the Roman definition Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:44 pm    Post subject: Re: RE: ... in a universe far away, and Climate Change (poss Reply with quote

guy wrote:
Are you saying that the early Mayans were uncivilised?


I was thinking specifically of the definition of civilisation offered in "The Cambridge History of the Native Peoples of the Americas".

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Civilizations are special kinds of human societies that have appeared only infrequently in the human past. They are more complex than the smaller-scale, simpler societies that preceded them. Their defining characteristics include complex social hierarchies, economic structures, and political systems; clearly defined territories or spheres of influence; "capitals" that are larger than the satellite communities subordinate to them and that, in some cases, are true cities or urban centres; and high attainments in the arts. Architecture, calendrics, religion, ritual, written and oral literature, and other branches of esoteric knowledge reflect the presence of an upper class or elite, perhaps the trait that most distinguishes civilizations from their less complex and organized predecessors.



So, in those terms, yes.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:44 am    Post subject: Re: RE: ... in a universe far away, and Climate Change (poss Reply with quote

lok1950 wrote:
We take baths at least that was the Roman definition Wink

Enjoy the Choice Smile
I barely have time for a shower, and I can't remember the last time I had a bath.

I'm not currently producing any literature, or any other art, and I'm not actively religious.

I listed to a couple of Radio 4 programs while I put the Christmas food shopping away, but I watched Die Hard 2 while I did the ironing.

Suddenly, I'm not sure if I'm civilised or not.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 5:01 pm    Post subject: RE: Re: RE: ... in a universe far away, and Climate Change ( Reply with quote

Well pootman, you're the member of a society where there are people to do some of the other things for you, so ease up and let someone else take the strain of maintaining the rest of us in a civilised state. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:51 am    Post subject: RE: Re: RE: ... in a universe far away, and Climate Change ( Reply with quote

If you do the ironing, you must be civilised!

Personally, I believe in the Ironing Fairy-what other explanation could there be for a freshly ironed shirt appearing in my wardrobe every morning?
Of course, I make the obligatory ritual offerings of flowers etc, or I might have to start ironing my own shirts.

Does that make me an uncivilised pagan? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:46 pm    Post subject: RE: Re: RE: ... in a universe far away, and Climate Change ( Reply with quote

As I understand the current theological climate, plant offerings are quite acceptable.

By an eerie coincidence, my father-in-law thinks of me as the Ironing Fairy.
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