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Where the Hell is Distrowatch?
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Rhakios
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nelz wrote:

And most other places. Fortunately, I have a spare key - ooh the power, should I admin Chris or 1sf (troll) (troll)?



Even if you did the latter, he wouldn't notice and even if he noticed, he wouldn't know what to do. So, go on, I dare you. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lok1950 wrote:
Since no one has said it yet Wink Welcome to the forums...


Thanks! And thanks, Neil.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That thought did occur to me, but to make him an admin, I'd have to remove his current special status Smile

BTW Chris, it's Saturday, go home!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 1:04 pm    Post subject: Re: The Mag...and Other Fare. Reply with quote

Ari wrote:

To clarify - the decision to stop doing the Distrowatch pages and the guys making the decision to leave aren't really related.


I'm not so sure about this. Here are Future's interim results, where the beancounters say they intend to resume paying a dividend to the shareholders at the end of the year: http://www.investegate.co.uk/future-plc/rns/interim-management-statement---18-july-2013/201307180700085775J/

The last Distrowatch appeared in LXF173 (http://www.linuxformat.com/archives?issue=173). A quick look through my back issues tells me that LXF173, the last issue to feature Distrowatch (and the last issue before the 16-page cut) went on sale on 20 June, two days after the dividend announcement was made.

If I were working on a magazine that I loved (it's clear that they're all friends as well as passionate free software advocates), this would annoy me enough to leave. Instead of producing 16 pages of Linux Format, the money that would otherwise have paid for those 16 pages (or at least part of it) is going to be given the shareholders. A cynic would suggest that the person who made the decision to cut the 16 pages is probably a large shareholder...

Maybe we should write to Schroder Investment Management and ask for Distrowatch back? Wink
http://www.futureplc.com/investors/major-shareholders/
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've already clarified to readers in my follow-up post that Distrowatch was dropped because of the cut in pages.

No one seemed greatly upset about the spread's departure when it was discussed in the office. You can include Susan Linton's copy being dropped as a catalyst for three staff departures if you want; it makes for a slightly bigger story than the current one. That still doesn't make it true, though.

As I've already stated, dropping pagination does decrease the value of the magazine to me, and most people, and it's not a decision I agree with.

I think you can assume that the page cuts, along with a lot of other things, had an influence on his and the other members' decision to leave.

I have no idea whether anyone will discuss their reasons for leaving publicly and, of course, they have a right to do that, but I do think it's high time that those that don't work for the magazine any more leave those that do alone to make the best go of the new start.

Again, I wish them well.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ari wrote:
Again, I wish them well.


And I mean that.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:48 pm    Post subject: Re: The Mag...and Other Fare. Reply with quote

Morrissey's Cat wrote:

Here are Future's interim results, where the beancounters say they intend to resume paying a dividend to the shareholders at the end of the year: http://www.investegate.co.uk/future-plc/rns/interim-management-statement---18-july-2013/201307180700085775J/

I followed the link and there is an ANNOYING ADVERT across the page I was trying to read, with no means of dismissing it. Just what I was talking about in my post a few minutes ago in the "This Website" forum - "Is it just me or no ads".
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Click on "Why are you asking me this" and then hit Back.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well you could try to voice your concern to the people in charge at Future (http://www.futureplc.com/contact/), I did 3 weeks ago to 2 different (male) directors and apart from an automatic reply from someone on maternity leave, the answer was no reply.

I wonder if the 16 lost pages were advertising or the content that we buy the mag for? and for 16 pages less per issue, I'm guessing that the sub. hasn't been decreased.
They're doing a good job of making my self fulfilling prophecy come true!

I am going to give lxf the benefit of the doubt for now and instead of renewing my subscription for 2 years next spring, I'll renew for 1 year.
I am confidant that the staff of linuxformat will do all possible to produce the magazine we have come to expect, I hope that they get the resources and space to do that.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excluding regulars, like Dr Smith, and former regulars, like Distrowatch, in December 2011 there were 46, in December 2012 52, in December 2013 44 pages of articles; prior to May 2012, there were normally 44-46 pages of articles; then from May 2012 to July 2013 there were normally 50-52 pages of articles.

Since August 2013 we have been back to the level in 2011 but the loss of Distrowatch may have heightened the impression of the magazine shrinking dramatically.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks John, interesting stats. We shall need to continue confusing the ad team so we have more editorial pages.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well here's at least an interesting OS on distrowatch Razz

http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=risc
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