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heiowge LXF regular

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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:53 pm Post subject: can't use second drive (SOLVED) |
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I've added a 2nd hard disc. Both the new one and the original are seagate 500gb drives.
It appears in dolphin, but I can't seem to do anything with it. I wanted to back up my files, but the paste option is greyed out.
Any suggestions? _________________ AMD PHENOM II X6, 14 GB DDR3, 500 GB hd, 1GB nVidia card, running Linux Mint 14 KDE / Win 7. Damn thing keeps breaking.
eeepc 1015PX, 1.66 Ghz Intel atom processor, 2 GB DDR3, 320 GB hd running Mint 14 MATE. Running great.
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el chapulín
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Looks like a permissions problem. By default *nix system don't just mount a hard disk drive assuming that all users should be able to write to it. Ensure that you've set the mount options correctly in /etc/fstab |
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heiowge LXF regular

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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks. Now how do I fix it?  _________________ AMD PHENOM II X6, 14 GB DDR3, 500 GB hd, 1GB nVidia card, running Linux Mint 14 KDE / Win 7. Damn thing keeps breaking.
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towy71 Moderator

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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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use the "disk utility" _________________ still looking for that door into summer |
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nelz Moderator

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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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You don't use mount options to set permissions on *nix filesystems, the filesystem ccontains its own ownership details, and the root of it is owned by the user that created it, which has to be root. On a single user system, all you need to do is moutn the drive then do
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It must be mounted when you do this, you are setting ownership of the root of the filesystem, not the mount point. Once you have done this it will be owned by your user wherever you mount it. _________________ Unix is user-friendly. It's just very selective about who it's friends are. |
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heiowge LXF regular

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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info. I logged on here to say I'd fixed it, but thanks anyway.
I needed to do a reinstall, and I found I could set custom mount points, so I set it to:
/media/seconddrive
Then I opened it with admin rights, added my user and set permissions through Nautilus. _________________ AMD PHENOM II X6, 14 GB DDR3, 500 GB hd, 1GB nVidia card, running Linux Mint 14 KDE / Win 7. Damn thing keeps breaking.
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Nuke LXF regular

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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:24 am Post subject: |
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I am just being picky, but /media is not meant to be a mount point for hard drives. It is meant for the ad hoc mounting of the wide variety of portable media such as CD's, Floppies, external HDs, USB sticks, cameras, digital picture frames, etc.
/mnt is meant for the more fixed things such as other PCs on the network and any internal HDs which are not usually mounted (such as for archiving), and to mount internal HDs temporarily when using a recovery distro.
For a permanently mounted internal HD, it should just be part of the main tree, not through /media or /mnt any more that your first HD is. Unlike a Windows environment, there is no need to be normally conscious of it being a second HD. I have three internal HDs and mount them as something like /home/nuke/data1, ~/data2 etc. [actually it is more complex than that as each HD has four partitions, so I also have mount points like ~/archive, ~/copy_of_my_laptop_home, /windows_XP and /windows_games] _________________ Unsolved Mysteries of the Universe No 9 :-
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Ram LXF regular

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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:40 am Post subject: |
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if you use /media to mount the drive it is then visible to all users on their desktops without doing anything else. _________________
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nelz Moderator

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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Ram wrote: | | if you use /media to mount the drive it is then visible to all users on their desktops without doing anything else. |
The same is true of /mnt. /media is intended for removable devices, particularly automounted ones. _________________ Unix is user-friendly. It's just very selective about who it's friends are. |
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Ram LXF regular

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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| nelz wrote: | | Ram wrote: | | if you use /media to mount the drive it is then visible to all users on their desktops without doing anything else. |
The same is true of /mnt. /media is intended for removable devices, particularly automounted ones. |
With /mnt you usually have to do extra work to display them on the desktop automatically where /media as you say is meant for removable devices but if used just displays them on the desktop.
I've got nfs shares, some in /mnt I have to navigate to them. Some in /media already waiting on the desktop to use once logged in. Just something I found by accident. _________________
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el chapulín
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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| nelz wrote: | | You don't use mount options to set permissions on *nix filesystems[etc] |
I, perhaps wrongly assumed, it was an NTFS volume, the OP dual boots with windows and didn't specify either way. |
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nelz Moderator

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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Ram wrote: | | With /mnt you usually have to do extra work to display them on the desktop automatically where /media as you say is meant for removable devices but if used just displays them on the desktop. |
I expect that depends on your desktop. KDE allows you to specify which are displayed, but I don't use desktop icons so it doesn't affect me. _________________ Unix is user-friendly. It's just very selective about who it's friends are. |
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Ram LXF regular

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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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| nelz wrote: | | Ram wrote: | | With /mnt you usually have to do extra work to display them on the desktop automatically where /media as you say is meant for removable devices but if used just displays them on the desktop. |
I expect that depends on your desktop. KDE allows you to specify which are displayed, but I don't use desktop icons so it doesn't affect me. |
Using gnome, no option I've seen, like that of kde. As I said that's an additional step albeit a small one. _________________
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