| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
catgate LXF regular
Joined: Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:45 pm Posts: 907 Location: Just over there, in that corner.
|
Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:33 pm Post subject: Jolly old Gimp again |
|
|
Some weeks ago I raised the matter of Gimp and it's sudden seeming reluctance to accept my Epson DX5050 as a viable scanner. This situation is still as it was then.
Today I wanted to do a little bit of picture tweaking and after loading the picture I found I could not get the toolbox up on the screen. A few days ago I found that it would not “Save” a .jpg image it had to be “Exported”.
So I looked at “About” Gimp and found I was using Gimp 2.7.2 and it was an”unstable development release”.
The “Ubuntu Software Centre”(under “Applications”) told me that I had Gimp ver 2.7.3. So I told it to unistalled it, hoping to get rid of 2.7.2 . I then went back to Synaptic Package manager and told it to install 2.7.3........and got 2.7.2 back.
Some time back, maybe two or three months ago, the gimp screen opening picture changed to a view of an old fashioned electric switch and a meter and I associated this with a Gimp update. Looking back this may well have been the start of this nonsense.
Has anyone else had this performance or am I the only person to have received this visitation. And....more to the point....please has anyone any advice on how to get rid of the problem , without huffing and puffing and blowing the entire house down? _________________ Oh, sod it. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
ajgreeny LXF regular
Joined: Wed May 10, 2006 9:18 pm Posts: 413 Location: Oxfordshire.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
towy71 Moderator

Joined: Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:11 pm Posts: 4176 Location: wild West Wales
|
Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 11:40 pm Post subject: |
|
|
My ubuntu install 11.10 uses Gimp 2.6.11 and I don't scan using it I use xsane, but I'm sure there must be a plugin
btw my scanner is Epson Office BX300F multi-function printer/scanner/copier and fax machine _________________ still looking for that door into summer |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
catgate LXF regular
Joined: Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:45 pm Posts: 907 Location: Just over there, in that corner.
|
Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 12:08 am Post subject: |
|
|
Thank you for your replies, chaps.
I come from a long line of luddites and so I am still using Ubuntu 10.04....and waiting for a few more weeks until all the nuts and bolts have been rechecked on 12.04
I suppose I am wrong in saying that I used to scan with Gimp, Towie, because like you I used xsane via the gimp file>create route.
It puzzles me that this rogue 2.7.2 version should creep in somhow. I like to let sleeping dogs remain so. Never trouble trouble till trouble troubles you. _________________ Oh, sod it. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
wyliecoyoteuk LXF regular

Joined: Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:41 pm Posts: 3369 Location: Birmingham, UK
|
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 12:02 pm Post subject: |
|
|
the jpg "export" is to remove transparency from the GIMP native format, which .jpg does not support. Click ok and then you can save it. _________________ The sig between the asterisks is so cool that only REALLY COOL people can even see it!
*************** ************ |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
catgate LXF regular
Joined: Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:45 pm Posts: 907 Location: Just over there, in that corner.
|
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 4:24 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| wyliecoyoteuk wrote: | | the jpg "export" is to remove transparency from the GIMP native format, which .jpg does not support. Click ok and then you can save it. |
Thanks for that, wylie.
One odd thing about it, to me, is that before this Gimp 2.7.2 thing crept in from somewhere I could just click OK and it would save a .jpg to where ever one wanted it to go.
The other, probably more peculiar, is that Synaptic Package Manager tells me that the installed version of Gimp is 2.7.3 and yet the when I run Gimp the Help>About dialogue tells me what I am running is 2.7.2.
Gimp man speak with forked tongue. _________________ Oh, sod it. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
catgate LXF regular
Joined: Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:45 pm Posts: 907 Location: Just over there, in that corner.
|
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 6:44 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I have just repeated the exercise of removing and reinstalling Gimp.
I removed, via Synaptic P.M., Gimp 2.7.3 ( that is what S.P.M. said was installed) and all the other support things that were loaded (gimp-data, gimp-data extras, gimp-draw, gimp-gutenprint) and I then Shut Down.
I rebooted and loaded the above listed items.
When I started up Gimp on the screen I was presented with the same unstable 2.7.2 again.
edit:- I have just checked the time and it is 5.41p.m. _________________ Oh, sod it. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
nelz Moderator

Joined: Mon Apr 04, 2005 12:52 pm Posts: 8036 Location: Warrington, UK
|
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 8:18 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| catgate wrote: | | One odd thing about it, to me, is that before this Gimp 2.7.2 thing crept in from somewhere I could just click OK and it would save a .jpg to where ever one wanted it to go. |
There's still an option to save a file back out in its original file and format, File > Overwrite <filename>. _________________ "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." (Albert Einstein) |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
catgate LXF regular
Joined: Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:45 pm Posts: 907 Location: Just over there, in that corner.
|
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 8:34 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| nelz wrote: |
There's still an option to save a file back out in its original file and format, File > Overwrite <filename>. |
That is a nice thing, nelz. I had not seen that.
I am very puzzled though, about how this 2.7.2 version (which is a self confessed "unstable" version) comes to be on my machine masquerading as ver.2.7.3., and also how I can get rid of it and replace it with a real genuine 2.7.3. _________________ Oh, sod it. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
nelz Moderator

Joined: Mon Apr 04, 2005 12:52 pm Posts: 8036 Location: Warrington, UK
|
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 11:35 pm Post subject: |
|
|
All 2.7 versions are development (so-called "unstable" releases). It could be that you either have a mispackaged version or it really is 2.7.3 with an identity crisis. The only other alternative is that you have both versions installed. What do you get from
| Code: | which gimp
gimp --version |
_________________ "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." (Albert Einstein) |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
catgate LXF regular
Joined: Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:45 pm Posts: 907 Location: Just over there, in that corner.
|
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:01 am Post subject: |
|
|
| nelz wrote: | All 2.7 versions are development (so-called "unstable" releases). It could be that you either have a mispackaged version or it really is 2.7.3 with an identity crisis. The only other alternative is that you have both versions installed. What do you get from
| Code: | which gimp
gimp --version |
|
This is what I get, nelz.
catgate@catgate-desktop:~$ which gimp
/usr/bin/gimp
catgate@catgate-desktop:~$ gimp --version
GNU Image Manipulation Program version 2.7.2
catgate@catgate-desktop:~$
This seems a bit odd when Synaptic P.M. says the installed version is 2.7.3.
Incidentally I have been poking about this evening looking at GIMP references and matters (on t'interthingy) and I have been quite surprised at the decision to no longer include it in "standard issue distros". From my reading it appears as though either I should have no Gimp at all or at the latest a late stable version of 2.6.? _________________ Oh, sod it. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
nelz Moderator

Joined: Mon Apr 04, 2005 12:52 pm Posts: 8036 Location: Warrington, UK
|
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 2:17 am Post subject: |
|
|
Then you have 2.7.2 in a package labelled 2.7.3. If the label on the item disagrees with the label on its box, believe the item itself.
I can understand distros not including 2.7 as it is both a development version and out of date. 2.8 is the latest stable release. _________________ "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." (Albert Einstein) |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
catgate LXF regular
Joined: Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:45 pm Posts: 907 Location: Just over there, in that corner.
|
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 11:42 am Post subject: |
|
|
Thnk you for that kind sir.
I suppose the next question is "Will Gimp 2.8 be compatible with a bewhiskered Ububtu 10.04?" Followed by "Oh ....well has Ubuntu 12.04 now got over it's teething problems?" _________________ Oh, sod it. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
nelz Moderator

Joined: Mon Apr 04, 2005 12:52 pm Posts: 8036 Location: Warrington, UK
|
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 2:47 pm Post subject: |
|
|
No idea, I use Linux rather than Ubuntu  _________________ "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." (Albert Einstein) |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
ajgreeny LXF regular
Joined: Wed May 10, 2006 9:18 pm Posts: 413 Location: Oxfordshire.
|
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 11:10 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| catgate wrote: | Tahnk you for that kind sir.
I suppose the next question is "Will Gimp 2.8 be compatible with a bewhiskered Ububtu 10.04?" Followed by "Oh ....well has Ubuntu 12.04 now got over it's teething problems?" |
I think it is "No" to the first question, but who knows if someone may produce a ppa version.
To the second question; that depends on your feelings about unity.
If you like unity and can run it in 3D, then 12.04 is pretty good, and much better than 11.10, in my opinion. If you can only run it in 2D you will be missing far too many of the configuration options to make it a usable possibility, (again, my opinion), but install gnome-panel with all its dependencies, choose gnome-classic at login and you will have a gnome 3 version of gnome 2 desktop which seems to work very well on my old (7yrs) desktop machine.
I have not yet tried gimp 2.8 on my test install of ubuntu 12.04 with the classic desktop, but I did try the 2.7 series in 10.04 and found it to be no better than 2.6.11 which is my main ubuntu 10.04 gimp version. _________________ Xubuntu 12.04 user, and loving it! |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
|