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Postby alan404 » Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:05 pm

Just one slight word of caution. Often the eBook editions are significantly more expensive than the paper editions, even from Amazon. (I find this a bit weird, I don't know why -- all those trees, and it's cheaper) And you can't get everything by a very long chalk (US writers are better served). I didn't realise it had a Linux core though.
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Postby nelz » Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:10 pm

I've not found any that are more expensive, but they are usually only marginally cheaper, when they should be no more than half the price. There is a slight excuse in that ebooks attract VAT while printed books are zero-rated, but that only accounts for a fraction of the excess.
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Postby LeeNukes » Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:41 pm

My missus has now shown interest in a Kindle after someone at work mentioned they've got one and love it. It appears that me telling her how good it would be to be able to take a basically limitless supply of books on holiday and not affect the weight of the cases, and if needed, download more whilst away wasn't enough.

Not sure about getting a 3G or a WIFI model yet though.

Oh, and there is also the Kindle app, which I "think" allows you to view your books cross platform.
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Postby Rhakios » Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:06 pm

I've got Kindle for Android, it allows you to buy books from the Amazon store and read them on your phone (if you must), apparently Calibre can convert at least some to be read on other e-readers, though I haven't checked that out yet.
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Postby nelz » Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:24 am

Most ebooks from Amazon come in their own .abz format, which is basically encrypted .mobi. There are programs available to convert them back to .mobi.
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Postby LeeNukes » Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:32 pm

I installed Kindle for Android before to get a heads up on it. I did notice once you signed in you had to designate which device the book was going to. Does this mean I'd have to buy it multiple times for multiple devices?

I thought it was like they do with their MP3 store where you just login and download.
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Postby nelz » Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:54 pm

When you go to your list of bought books, you can send them to different devices, you only have to buy each one once.

The DRM simply restricts it to any device registered to your account, so you can't save the book and copy it to another computer, you have to register the second computer to your account and then send the book.

If you buy a Kindle device, it comes already linked to your account, there's no set up to do, which is a nice touch.
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Postby dandnsmith » Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:24 am

nelz wrote:Most ebooks from Amazon come in their own .abz format, which is basically encrypted .mobi. There are programs available to convert them back to .mobi.


The books I've acquired are of three types:
a) .azw from Amazon (whether bought or free)
b) .azw from a couple of other sites
c) .mobi - which seem to play fine on the Kindle

I did find a note somewhere saying that the mobi format may not play on the Kindle if there is DRM on it.

I haven't yet worked out what use the free 3G Whispernet can be for me, as there seem to be restrictions on various download types which mean you need a PC with wifi and an internet connection.
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Postby nelz » Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:30 am

The free 3G downloads only apply to books bought from Amazon. If you use the email conversion process and the books are delivered by 3G, there is a charge. Everything is free with WiFi.

I went for the WiFi only version as I tend to keep plenty of books loaded on the device, so I'm unlikely to need to suddenly download something. If I do, you're never more than a few hundred yards from a Starbucks (don't they say the same about rats?).
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Postby Rhakios » Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:44 pm

nelz wrote:If I do, you're never more than a few hundred yards from a Starbucks (don't they say the same about rats?).


On the whole, Starbucks coffee tastes marginally better than rat though. ;)
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Postby nelz » Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:45 pm

I'll take your word for it. Personally, I've never felt the need to taste Starbucks.
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Postby LeeNukes » Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:50 am

nelz wrote:If you buy a Kindle device, it comes already linked to your account, there's no set up to do, which is a nice touch.


Unless you're buying one for a friend :roll:


Interesting about the free 3G being only for book downloads. Very little point in spending the extra £50 then. I assumed it was free as in all 3G access is free. They probably charge you for roaming too which was the only other reason I thought about getting 3G, for the ability to install books whilst abroad.
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Postby nelz » Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:37 am

You can specify when ordering that the Kindle isn't for you, or deregister it after purchase, which also applies if you sell it.

You didn't really think they'd give you free 3G Internet access, plus hardware, for £40, did you? It is free to install books while abroad, provided you have bought the books from Amazon, it's also free to browse the Amazon web site and one or two others. If you want to install books from elsewhere, do it over WiFi before you travel, which you'll probably need to get them in the first place.
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Postby LeeNukes » Fri Oct 29, 2010 7:46 pm

Of course I did, otherwise its not free 3G is it, its the same connection I have to the Orange Mobile site from my phone, that's free too.

Unhappy about that, just glad I didn't buy one first.
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Postby nelz » Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:13 pm

Orange give free, worldwide 3G connections? Vodafone have the cheek to take money out of my bank account every months to pay for my "free" calls etc.
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