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Postby johnhudson » Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:25 pm

Google has just produced a plugin that allows HTML5 content to be displayed properly in IE6 - they may want people to move to HTML5 but they aren't going to risk losing the advertising revenue.
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Postby ollie » Sat Jun 12, 2010 8:43 am

w3schools.com wrote:May 2010
    IE8 - 16.0%
    IE7 - 9.1%
    IE6 - 7.1%
    Firefox - 46.9%
    Chrome - 14.5%
    Safari - 3.5%
    Opera - 2.2%
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp


Microsoft don't have anywhere near 50% of the traffic at W3Schools and I expect that LXF would have even lower IE stats :wink: Apple are trying to send web development back to the 20th Century where web developers have to use browser sniffing to send different web pages to users depending on their browser. If Apple don't want to allow Flash based content that's fine, but don't bullsh*t the world about only Safari supporting web standards.

The problem for Apple is that users want access to Flash based content, as do advertisers, who are the people paying the only reliable income generated on the Internet (other than porn :wink: )
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Postby Rhakios » Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:03 pm

ollie wrote:The problem for Apple is that users want access to Flash based content, as do advertisers, who are the people paying the only reliable income generated on the Internet (other than porn :wink: )


To be fair, iTunes has been very reliable in generating revenue for Apple, which is why they try to push everything through it.
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Postby corners » Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:01 pm

ollie wrote: users want access to Flash based content, as do advertisers, who are the people paying the only reliable income generated on the Internet (other than porn :wink: )


There's a search engine that makes money out of advertising without using Flash. I can't recall their name but if they can do it maybe others can.

Personally I like to see the web move towards open standards and move away from proprietary bloatware like flash.
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Postby ollie » Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:35 am

corners wrote:There's a search engine that makes money out of advertising without using Flash. I can't recall their name but if they can do it maybe others can.

Personally I like to see the web move towards open standards and move away from proprietary bloatware like flash.


Actually, I think they have the largest repository of user generated Flash video on the web. Many of their ad banners can also display Flash advertising :wink:

I'd too would really like to see open standards used and supported by all vendors, but that super small software company and the musical fruit company have vested interest in locking customers into their computing environments.
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Postby th3_d0ct0r » Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:15 pm

The think is that HTML 5.0 will solve many problems and incompatibilities among different platforms and O/Ses....

Thank GOD...or at least I hope so!
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Postby ollie » Fri Sep 24, 2010 11:24 am

th3_d0ct0r wrote:The think is that HTML 5.0 will solve many problems and incompatibilities among different platforms and O/Ses....

Thank GOD...or at least I hope so!


Um ... that was the point of HTML, HTML+, HTML 2, HTML 3.2, HTML 4, HTML 4.01, XHTML and XHTML1.1. Why would HTML5 make any difference to proprietary companies looking to lock customers into their products?
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Postby jjmac » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:55 am

As i see it ...
(or, reality can be a strange place at times.)

# mega-corp company floods with proprietary facility.

# people want content, so ... whether they want to or not ... whether the implications are known/understood or not ... they install the facility in order to make the content available.

# they may not even know if they really want it at this stage, but how are they to know if they can't access it.

# so its' usage count increases.

# mega-corps then points at the stats and declares --- see, it must be good/ok otherwise people wouldn't have chosen it.

# by that time it is very hard to shift.

The technique does needs a name, at least that would help in its' perception. Very insidious none the less.

As for the fruitshop owner and squinty, talk about carrying a grudge. I don't think the former has liked the later ... well, ever since the later did the dirty and sold all his shares to fund his own tiny co. Causing the apple price to plummet. Is there no honour amongst such people any more ?

I've always been a bit suspicious of flash.

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