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Which Cable router

Postby heiowge » Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:39 am

I need a new router. My old Belkin one keeps dropping the wireless connections to my eeepc (ubuntu 10.10) and my wifes laptop (vista). Wired connections rarely fail.

I was probably going to get one from ebuyer since I'm going to be paying with paypal. I don't need anything fancy. I don't need to be able to connect at the bottom of my garden, but I do need a signal upstairs through a few walls.

I need it not to cost too much (sub £50) but be reliable. So I'm not looking at another belkin. Can anyone recommend a good brand, or brands to avoid or even better point me at the best one I can get for what I need?

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Postby Dutch_Master » Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:17 pm

Linksys/Cisco, Draytek, Fritz (or Fritzbox). Most routers come with integrated modem these days, so check what protocol your ISP uses and if that's supported on your chosen brand/model.
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Postby PCNetSpec » Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:27 pm

I've always found Netgear routers to be pretty reliable, so you might want to take a look at the WGR614:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/48546
for Wireless 802.11"G" 54mbps

Or in you need Wireless 802.11"N" - the WNR1000 RangeMax 150
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/166934
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Postby heiowge » Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:20 pm

Thanks. They both look pretty good. I am more inclined to get a G, but my one concern is not being able to match the signal I get from my belkin upstairs. Does the g level vary much? I don't mind splurging an extra £20 if it keeps my signal well, but don't want to waste it if there's no difference.

Thing is, upstairs it gets used in the bedroom a lot - I tend to stream stuff from downstairs or just surf in bed. On the meter at the top of the Gnome desktop I normally get 2 bars upstairs and 4 down. I wouldn't want to find I had a shaky connection upstairs just for the sake of £20.
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Postby PCNetSpec » Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:40 pm

There's a reason the WNR1000 is called a RANGEMAX ;)

But there should be little in it between the Belkin F5D7230 and the Netgear WGR614 as far as range goes.

I take it thet your current router IS an F5D7230 ?

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Postby heiowge » Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:33 pm

That's the annoying piece of c***. :lol:
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Postby heiowge » Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:51 am

PCNetSpec wrote:Or in you need Wireless 802.11"N" - the WNR1000 RangeMax 150
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/166934


Bought that one thanks.
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Postby M-Saunders » Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:08 am

heiowge wrote:That's the annoying piece of c***. :lol:


Belkin sucks. At least, in my experience. I bought one of their combo ADSL modem + wireless router things for my parents, and its range is pitifully bad. After about five metres of space, with only a wooden door in between, the connection starts to drop. It's so bad, I don't even know why it exists.

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Postby heiowge » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:24 pm

My belkin drops connections at a range of less than a foot. :roll:
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Postby Rhakios » Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:41 pm

Interesting. When I first bought some Apple gear I bought one of their Airport Extreme base stations (the flying saucer type), I kept it on a shelf next to my desktop. For my N800 to get a decent signal I had to hold it about six inches above the base station, I thought it was cr@p.
Later, I decided to move it into the sitting room and put it high up on a book shelf, now the signal reaches from one end of my flat to the other and I can even pick up the signal on my phone from the car park outside.
Odd things antennae, but no mention of this "feature" in the manual.
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Postby Dutch_Master » Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:52 pm

Ah yes. You know, there's more to 'wireless' then just a sender and receiver :P There's a whole theory on microwaves, interference, shielding and stuff... :roll:

The choice of location of your AP is of direct influence on its performance. Put it next to metal, either steel rebarb wire in the concrete or a metal box like a fridge, and the results are predictably bad. On top of a freestanding wooden frame yields much better results. And it's those results manufacturers are keen to publish and advertise. So, choose your location well and steer clear from metal.
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Postby ollie » Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:22 pm

The hard part of most Wi-Fi "boxes" these days is the location and direction of the antenna(s) inside the box. Wireless antennas broadcast in a "doughnut" shape (correctly called a toroid) which means there is a "cone of silence" directly above and below the antenna. Metal objects distort the doughnut, so placing the "box" on top of a fridge can extend the range outwards. You have to experiment to get the best location for your environment.

See Antenna (radio) for more info and diagrams.
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