towy71 wrote: What we really need is a proper constitution and a bill of rights and responsibilities
towy71 wrote:Oops, just read the rules of the forum and I think I might have overstepped the mark, so I humbly apologise but retract nothing
M-Saunders wrote:towy71 wrote:Well, I don't want to have long-winded and nasty political debates flaring up on here, but with so many people against ID cards, that probably won't happen!
shifty_ben wrote:I work for a very large Drinks retailer
, and from that point of view ID cards will be a good thing, at the moment we are getting personal fines of 80 quid if we serve someone under 18, and get caught. The problem is theres no real form of ID that we can _expect_ people to have, a lot of people over 18 don't carry it.
shifty_ben wrote:We work on the policy if you look under 21 then we will ID you, problem is its actually rather hard to tell if someone looks 21 or not. Ive ID'd people and theyve pulled out a driving license saying their 27!
I am lucky in that our company will back you to the hilt with regards to ID, but OTOH if you fail a test purchase you get a disciplinary.
Okay, I'll have a very large drink please
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