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Please help me to install Linux

Postby Gorky » Thu Nov 17, 2005 2:56 pm

I have bought the SuSE Linux 10.0 by buying the magazine. It doesn't work. It is a DVD came with the magazine. It doesn't find the hard drive.

The message is as follows:
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Probing hard disks
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Error
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No hard disks were found for the installation. Please check your hardware.
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What shall I do?
It doesn't find the driver which recognizes the hard drive.





The following are some details of my hardware. I bought a 64 bit computer
two weeks ago.

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[ My IDE Controller - Ali M5229 PCI Bus Master IDE Controller]



CPU Type AMD Athlon 64, 2000 MHz (10 x 200) 3200+

Motherboard Name ASRock K8 Combo-Z (3 PCI, 1 AGP, 5 DDR DIMM, Audio, LAN)

Motherboard Chipset ULi/ALi M1689, AMD Hammer

System Memory 1024 MB (DDR SDRAM)
BIOS Type AMI (08/30/05)

Communication Port Communications Port (COM1)
Communication Port ECP Printer Port (LPT1)

Display:
Video Adapter RADEON 9250 - Secondary (128 MB)

Video Adapter RADEON 9250 (128 MB)

3D Accelerator ATI Radeon 9250 (RV280)

Monitor Samsung SAMTRON 75(M)E (Plus) [17" CRT] (HMAKA03804)


Multimedia:
Audio Adapter ULi/ALi M5455 AC'97 Audio Controller


Storage:
IDE Controller ALi M5229 PCI Bus Master IDE Controller

IDE Controller Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Floppy Drive Floppy disk drive
Disk Drive Maxtor 6B160M0 (160 GB, 7200 RPM, SATA)

Optical Drive _NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A

SMART Hard Disks Status OK

Partitions:
C: (NTFS) 72284 MB (67067 MB free)
E: (FAT32) 46 MB (46 MB free)
Total Size 70.6 GB (65.5 GB free)

Input:
Keyboard Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse Microsoft PS/2 Mouse


Network:
Network Adapter ULi PCI Fast Ethernet Controller (83.250.92.194)



BIOS Properties:
Vendor American Megatrends Inc.
Version L2.31
Release Date 08/30/2005
Size 256 KB
Boot Devices Floppy Disk, Hard Disk, CD-ROM, ATAPI ZIP, LS-120
Capabilities Flash BIOS, Shadow BIOS, Selectable Boot, EDD, BBS
Supported Standards DMI, ACPI
Expansion Capabilities PCI, AGP, USB

[ System ]

System Properties:
Manufacturer TBD
Product K8 Combo-Z
Version 1.00
Serial Number 00000000
Universal Unique ID 00020003-00040005-00060007-00080009
Wake-Up Type Power Switch

[ Motherboard ]

Motherboard Properties:
Manufacturer TBD
Product K8 Combo-Z
Version 1.00
Serial Number 00000000

[ Processors / AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ ]

Processor Properties:
Manufacturer AMD
Version AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+
Serial Number TBD
Asset Tag TBD
Part Number TBD
External Clock 200 MHz
Maximum Clock 2000 MHz
Current Clock 2000 MHz
Type Central Processor
Voltage 3.3 V, 2.9 V
Status Enabled
Socket Designation CPUSocket

[ Caches / L1-Cache ]

Cache Properties:
Type Internal
Status Enabled
Operational Mode Varies with Memory Address
Associativity 4-way Set-Associative
Maximum Size 128 KB
Installed Size 128 KB
Supported SRAM Type Pipeline Burst
Current SRAM Type Pipeline Burst
Error Correction Single-bit ECC
Socket Designation L1-Cache

[ Caches / L2-Cache ]





Motherboard Properties:
Motherboard ID 62-231-0000010-00101111-083005-ALI$K8CBZ231_K8 COMBO-Z BIOS P2.40
Motherboard Name ASRock K8 Combo-Z (3 PCI, 1 AGP, 5 DDR DIMM, Audio, LAN)

Chipset Properties:
Motherboard Chipset ULi/ALi M1689, AMD Hammer
Memory Timings 2.5-3-3-8 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
Command Rate (CR) 2T

SPD Memory Modules:
DIMM1 512 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (2.5-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz)
DIMM2 512 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (2.5-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz)

BIOS Properties:
System BIOS Date 08/30/05
Video BIOS Date 05/04/26
DMI BIOS Version L2.31

Graphics Processor Properties:
Video Adapter PowerColor Radeon 9250
GPU Code Name RV280 (AGP 8x 1002 / 5960, Rev 01)
GPU Clock 238 MHz (original: 240 MHz)
Memory Clock 200 MHz (original: 200 MHz)






Device Properties:
Driver Description Maxtor 6B160M0
Driver Date 2001-07-01
Driver Version 5.1.2535.0
Driver Provider Microsoft
INF File disk.inf

Disk Device Physical Info:
Manufacturer Maxtor
Hard Disk Family DiamondMax 10
Form Factor 3.5"
Formatted Capacity 160 GB
Physical Dimensions 147 x 101.6 x 26.1 mm
Max. Weight 630 g
Average Rotational Latency 4.17 ms
Rotational Speed 7200 RPM
Average Seek 9 ms
Interface SATA
Buffer-to-Host Data Rate 150 MB/s
Buffer Size 8 MB

Device Manufacturer:
Company Name Maxtor Corporation
Product Information http://www.maxtor.com/en/products/


[ _NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A ]

Device Properties:
Driver Description _NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A
Driver Date 2001-07-01
Driver Version 5.1.2535.0
Driver Provider Microsoft
INF File cdrom.inf

Device Manufacturer:
Company Name NEC Corporation
Product Information http://www.nec-global.com/prod/index.html


[ ALi M5229 PCI Bus Master IDE Controller ]

Device Properties:
Driver Description ALi M5229 PCI Bus Master IDE Controller
Driver Date 2003-03-06
Driver Version 1.5.1.0
Driver Provider ALi Coporation
INF File oem4.inf

Device Resources:
Port FF00-FF0F

[ Primary IDE Channel ]

Device Properties:
Driver Description Primary IDE Channel
Driver Date 2001-07-01
Driver Version 5.1.2600.2180
Driver Provider Microsoft
INF File mshdc.inf

[ Primary IDE Channel ]

Device Properties:
Driver Description Primary IDE Channel
Driver Date 2001-07-01
Driver Version 5.1.2600.2180
Driver Provider Microsoft
INF File mshdc.inf

Device Resources:
IRQ 14
Port 01F0-01F7
Port 03F6-03F6

[ Secondary IDE Channel ]

Device Properties:
Driver Description Secondary IDE Channel
Driver Date 2001-07-01
Driver Version 5.1.2600.2180
Driver Provider Microsoft
INF File mshdc.inf

[ Secondary IDE Channel ]

Device Properties:
Driver Description Secondary IDE Channel
Driver Date 2001-07-01
Driver Version 5.1.2600.2180
Driver Provider Microsoft
INF File mshdc.inf

Device Resources:
IRQ 15
Port 0170-0177
Port 0376-0376

[ Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller ]

Device Properties:
Driver Description Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Driver Date 2001-07-01
Driver Version 5.1.2600.2180
Driver Provider Microsoft
INF File mshdc.inf

Device Resources:
IRQ 19
Port 0E00-0E03
Port 0E80-0E87
Port 0F00-0F03
Port 0F80-0F87
Port D880-D88F

[ Standard floppy disk controller ]

Device Properties:
Driver Description Standard floppy disk controller
Driver Date 2001-07-01
Driver Version 5.1.2600.0
Driver Provider Microsoft
INF File fdc.inf


{Please help me. The problem is purely that the program doesn't
recognize the hard drive.}
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Postby shifty_ben » Thu Nov 17, 2005 2:59 pm

I might be wrong but I thought Suse only ran properly on 32-bit platforms, unless you buy a 64-bit version. Although I suppose the installer probably wouldnt run. I was going to use the discs tomorrow so if I find any problems Ill post on here
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Postby Gorky » Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:29 pm

It has both 32 and 64 bit versions. I selected the 64 bit version for the installation.
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Postby Rhakios » Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:13 pm

Which might be the cause of your problems. The magazine cover mount DVD has only the 32-bit version, regardless of the options that the installer might offer. There's only 3.2GB on the disc, whcih is only enough for one complete architecture.
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Postby Gorky » Thu Nov 17, 2005 8:59 pm

Rhakios

It gave me the option of 32 bit and 64 bit. It seems you know the truth. It has only 32 bit.

Why did it gave me the both option?

Do you know any other journal where I can find the 64 bit program? I live in Sweden. I could buy all British computer magazines in Sweden.

I deeply appreciate your advice on this. So please reply me.
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By the way, I bought even the Fedora Core 4 from a magazine nearly 2 weeks ago. It gave me similar problems. I selected the 64 bit version.
The problem was same. It can't find the hard drive.
They gave me 4 CDs with the magazine.

Do you know about those CDs? Please advice me.
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Postby spottedcat » Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:14 pm

I've read somewhere that 32-bit versions should run OK on an AMD Athlon64 machine, but in my (admittedly limited) experience this is not to be recommended. I installed SUSE 9.3 (32-bit) on my AMD64 machine and some very weird things happened - starting with a stream of checksum errors when downloading updates. The installer allowed the install, shifty_ben, but only after checking with me that I really did want to install 32-bit software on a 64-bit machine. The 32-bit version of Fedora 4 also went peculiar on the same machine.

As far as 64-bit versions on magazine covers is concerned, Gorky, I'm in the same position as you and so far I have only come across 32-bit versions on magazine DVDs. It's very frustrating. I've bought the retail version of Suse 10 and I don't think the price excessive. If, however, that's beyond your budget and you don't want a lengthy DVD download, try googling around for suppliers of various free versions of Linux on burnt CD/DVD. Here in the UK there are a couple who sell a DVD or set of CDs for between £5 and £10. (Sorry, not sure what that is in Euros.)

My HD was recognised, but that was with other install DVDs so, sorry, I can't help you there.
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Postby Rhakios » Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:25 pm

The only place I know of that you can get the 64-bit version of SuSE10 for free is via a bittorrent download, available on most SuSE mirrors.
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Postby shifty_ben » Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:00 pm

If u want to try Ubuntu then I have several install cds sitting here for Boary badger, includign a couple of 64 bit versions. Private message me with your Home address and I will send them out to you ASAP
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Postby Gorky » Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:27 am

I thank everybody for the replies.
Rhakios suggested downloading from the Bittorrent. I did it. It was some
9.2 version. That fellow has ripped it from the original DVD. It was some 7.5GB. It took almost 4 days to download. I don't have high speed downloading. My data official transfer rate is 0.5Mbit per second.

I can get 8Mbit per second. I can't afford it.

That fellow has made a mistake while ripping it, as far as I understand. It
doesn't work. A friend of mine told me it was a tricky thing to rip CDs.

I can buy the latest SuSE 10.0 package for 600.00 crowns in Sweden. It is a lot of money for me. Nowadays I am studying networking. I don't work.

In dollars it is between 70 to 80. I mean 600.00 crowns is
about 70-80 dollars.

I looked at the package. It clearly says the inclusion of 32bit and 64bit
version. I don't have to buy from the Amazon website. It is
available here in Sweden.

Buy the way, I bought another magazine which has Knoppix 4.0 version. It
is a live CD. It beautifully installed the program. I can use the word
processor, format diskettes, work in the shell, etc.

I can't go to the Internet. It doesn't recognize the network card. I tried many hours to fix the problem. This too is a 32 bit version, I guess.

Shiffy said he could give me the Ubuntu. Thank you very much. How can you do that? I live in Stockholm, Sweden.

Your comments and support are deeply appreciated.
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Postby ollie » Fri Nov 18, 2005 10:15 am

The SUSE Linux 10 version you are looking for is SUSE Linux 10 Downloads. The DVD version has both 32-bit and 64-bit installation files. The openSUSE 10 version would have come from openSUSE Release Version - Stable actually only comes in CD versions for x86, PPC or x86_64 - I'm assuming that LXF have used Jigdo to put a DVD version together from the x86 CDs. I can't confirm this I'm still waiting for my LXF 74 - I'm on subscription in Australia :cry: :cry: :cry:

Try downloading either the Novell SUSE Linux 10 DVD Eval version or the openSUSE 10 x86_64 CD version - or find a friend with broadband and see if they can download overnight for you. Or you could try our mate A-Wing at LinuxISO.co.uk who seems to have very good deals close to you.
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Postby spottedcat » Fri Nov 18, 2005 10:19 am

I've read through this thread again and I wonder if all the debate about 32-bit versus 64-bit might be missing the real issue here. Gorky states that he has a 160 GB SATA drive with about half of that partitioned for Windows (presumably - he mentions NTFS). And presumably Windows is both residing on and recognising the hard drive. I presume also that the remaining 80GB or so is free space which the Linux installer really ought to recognise. Is the machine running Windows OK, Gorky? If it is then we can assume there is not a hardware problem. I have no experience with SATA drives, so can someone else say whether this could explain non-recognition by the Suse installer.

Another question, Gorky. Did Knoppix recognise the partitions on your hard disk? That could be useful information. I think you use qparted, but someone else might care to correct me. Sorry I can't be of more help, but my technical knowledge is limited. I just wanted to fan the flames of debate for you.
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Postby M-Saunders » Fri Nov 18, 2005 10:21 am

ollie wrote:I'm assuming that LXF have used Jigdo to put a DVD version together from the x86 CDs. I can't confirm this I'm still waiting for my LXF 74 - I'm on subscription in Australia :cry: :cry: :cry:


Nope, we used the makeSUSEdvd script from SUSE to create the DVD.

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Postby Gorky » Fri Nov 18, 2005 10:52 am

I thank everybody for the replies.

My Windows XP works fine. However, I am not a Windows fan. I work only with Linux. I just keep Windows as a symbol.


Ollie, the Novell site you mentioned doesn't have the full 64 bit version of SuSE Linux. Just an evaluation version.

What is the meaning of evaluation version? I don't think it has everything.

Please tell me.


I have the Partiton Magic program installed on Windows XP. I used that program to create and partition a 'ext2' file systm partiton on my computer.
Knoppix beautifully recognized that partition and installed it.

Afterwards, I tried to go to the Internet. It didn't work as I had to configure the system to recognize the NIC card. I tried many hours to
fix the problem. My NIC card is built on to the motherboard.

The Windows XP recognized my NIC card. That is why I can go the Internet. So nothing wrong with the NIC card.
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Postby shifty_ben » Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:20 am

OK in terms of sending the CD, I didnt realise you were in Sweden :oops: but if you want it I can still send it, itll just take longer to get there. Alternatively you can go to Ubuntus website and order some cds for free. In terms of your hard drive problem, my recommendation is assuming you havent put anything in it, delete the ext2 partition from Partition magic, that list of output you gave us does not mention an ext2 partition. I have had nothing but problems with partition magic the odd times I have used it, you are far better off letting the installer make a partition for you.

Hope this helps
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Postby ollie » Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:40 am

The Eval version is the same as the boxed version except you don't get the 90-days of support or the printed manuals. The installation process uses qparted to re-size Windows partitions if required. :wink:
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