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Replace Firefox 29 with 28 or earlier

 
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heiowge
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:42 pm    Post subject: Replace Firefox 29 with 28 or earlier Reply with quote

I'm sick of every time I upgrade Firefox, it's worse than before. Things I want to change back I can't.

Take the tabs bar for instance. I like it under the address bar. On the bottom. Below the bookmarks toolbar.

First they made it always visible. Now I have to use an add-on to hide it when I only have one tab open. Having it show all the time is a pain in the hole. Especially on my netbook, where space is premium.

Then they moved the bar to the top, like on chrome. I don't like it. So I moved it back with the "tabs on top" checkbox. Then they removed the checkbox.

So I changed it with about:config. Then they removed that option. Then I used an add-on. Now they don't work with FF 29.

So I'm sick of it. I either want to roll back to 28 or earlier for good, or switch browsers.

Has anyone thought of forking Firefox to stop them breaking things?

Can anyone offer advice other than "suck it up, it'll get better"? Well I did and it hasn't.

Sorry, rant over. Can anyone help? Smile
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm totally with you on exactly the same points. There's also the missing status bar at the bottom, which very usefully displays the URL of a link when you hover the mouse over it. Up to v28 this could be restored with the Status-4-Evar addon, but it's gone in v29.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

roseway wrote:
I'm totally with you on exactly the same points. There's also the missing status bar at the bottom, which very usefully displays the URL of a link when you hover the mouse over it. Up to v28 this could be restored with the Status-4-Evar addon, but it's gone in v29.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get the Classic-Theme-Restorer for FF29 and it will be back almost to what it was before; not quite the same, but almost.
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2014 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's good to know Smile
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2014 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read your post and then sleepwalked into automatically updating ff28 to 29. It's irritating having to discover where they put the preferences menu, etc. Worst of all my forecastfox addon is no longer compatible!
I uninstalled ff29 and am looking at how to reinstall ff28. In the meantime I'm using midori on that machine.
I hope that this page, https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/install-firefox-linux is going to help.
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2014 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fíona wrote:
I read your post and then sleepwalked into automatically updating ff28 to 29. It's irritating having to discover where they put the preferences menu, etc. Worst of all my forecastfox addon is no longer compatible!
I uninstalled ff29 and am looking at how to reinstall ff28. In the meantime I'm using midori on that machine.
I hope that this page, https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/install-firefox-linux is going to help.

I can't help with the forecastfox addon, but for everything else see my post back a couple of places and get the Classic-Theme-Restorer; https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/classicthemerestorer/ that gets just about everything else back where it was, and I imagine the weather addon will be updated very soon; it looks as if there was an update but it was a bit unstable so has gone for now, but I imagine it will be back.
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2014 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your comment ajgreeny; I actually installed the classicthemerestorer on top of ff29. I found an update for forecastfox https://static.getforecastfox.com/downloads/forecastfox-latest.xpi and that seems to work although firefox crashes sometimes when starting up.
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2014 10:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Replace Firefox 29 with 28 or earlier Reply with quote

heiowge wrote:
I'm sick of every time I upgrade Firefox, it's worse than before. Things I want to change back I can't.

Take the tabs bar for instance. I like it under the address bar. On the bottom. Below the bookmarks toolbar.

First they made it always visible. Now I have to use an add-on to hide it when I only have one tab open. Having it show all the time is a pain in the hole. Especially on my netbook, where space is premium.

Then they moved the bar to the top, like on chrome. I don't like it. So I moved it back with the "tabs on top" checkbox. Then they removed the checkbox.
So I changed it with about:config. Then they removed that option. Then I used an add-on. Now they don't work with FF 29.

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I agree with you totally. It appears to be a case of "we're doing it because we can".

That having been said It reminds me of an incident in a management meeting many years ago when one of the departmental managers put forwards a scheme that he was going to introduce. It was a foolish thing he was proposing and fortunately I had the authority to prohibit it. So after I had said that I would do so, should he go any further, he made a most memorable little speech and said, "You must remember, not every improvement is necessarily for the better."

Looks like he was not the only one with a warped reasoning faculty!
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if any of the developers working on ****ing up Firefox are the same ones who ****ed up GNOME 3?

In the race to compete with iOS for the Mobile ego trip, the GNU/Linux developer community seems to have forgotten that the comfortably productive desktop is not going to go away. Apple keep MacOS distinct from iOS for good reason, and Google's dreams of merging Android with ChromeOS thankfully remain just that - dreams.

Now it seems we can add Mozilla to the Mozilla/GNU/Linux ego trippers. H'mm, Firefork or Forkfox anybody? Or maybe Firefox Mint? Wink
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2014 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

guy wrote:
H'mm, Firefork or Forkfox anybody? Or maybe Firefox Mint? Wink


I hinted at something similar on the Mint forums and nearly got my head torn off by Admin. With MATE and NEMO and Cinnamon, maybe they're forking busy! Cool
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2014 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajgreeny wrote:
Get the Classic-Theme-Restorer for FF29 and it will be back almost to what it was before; not quite the same, but almost.


Thanks for the tip. I still cannot move the reload and back buttons they seem to be part of the url box now. Suppose I could always roll back to Iceweasel.
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2014 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

heiowge wrote:
guy wrote:
H'mm, Firefork or Forkfox anybody? Or maybe Firefox Mint? Wink


I hinted at something similar on the Mint forums and nearly got my head torn off by Admin. With MATE and NEMO and Cinnamon, maybe they're forking busy! Cool


Maybe that Admin. just got confused between Forkfork and Borkbork.
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

purplepenguin wrote:
ajgreeny wrote:
Get the Classic-Theme-Restorer for FF29 and it will be back almost to what it was before; not quite the same, but almost.


Thanks for the tip. I still cannot move the reload and back buttons they seem to be part of the url box now. Suppose I could always roll back to Iceweasel.
I have managed easily to add in the forwards/backwards and reload buttons to my normal toolbar, but you will need to go to the CTR preferences in Tools menu to enable Movable back-forward button before that can be done.
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