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Builing from scratch... Advice needed

Postby heiowge » Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:26 pm

Advice needed.

A local shop is offering some parts I need for my new pc. All are boxed and new, but I'm thinking the price is a little high.

What I need is a standard size case, power supply ( they're recommending 750 watt), processor (prob i5) with heat sink, motherboard and graphics card (supporting dual monitor setup and normal gaming).

They are offering:

i5 3330 3.0 ghz £140
Asrock B75 motherboard DDR3 £45
nVidia 640 1gb DDR5 £90
Atx case standard £30
750 watt psu £30

Total £335

Can anyone post links to similar or better spec at lower price on ebuyer please? I can build, but am worried about buying incompatible parts. I don't mind buying some stuff from them and other stuff from the shop.

Ta xx

**edit**

I already have a pair of seagate 500gb hd, 16gb DDR3 (2Xmatched 4gb, a 4gb and a matched pair of 2gb), a dvd drive and a few other bits n bobs.
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Postby purplepenguin » Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:11 am

IMHO It's not a great deal you could find a better one on-line. Have a look at ebay or pcspecialist. For a few quid more you could get the i5 4670. I don't know much about AS Rock. I tend to stick with Asus/MSI. I doubt a mobo at that price will have sata/usb 3 though.

Have a look at the specs on this one and it's a quid cheaper.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/INTEL-i5-4670-Quad-Core-3-4Ghz-2GB-250GB-NVIDIA-GT630-Gaming-PC-Desktop-/321360561839?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopPCs&hash=item4ad29506af[/url]
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Postby Jarry » Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:58 pm

A 750 watt power supply seems a bit excessive for that set-up. But then again £30 for a 750W supply is cheap. Presumably it's a generic type? I always worry a bit about the reliability of non-branded supplies but that's probably just me. Other people say they're fine.
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Postby roseway » Wed Apr 02, 2014 6:22 am

In my opinion, money spent on a good quality power supply with plenty of spare capacity is money well spent. I've had cheap power supplies blow up, and it's not a pleasant experience. And it's not just a question of reliability, although that's important of course; it's also the stability, smoothness and accuracy of the output voltages. Power supply glitches can cause the PC to misbehave, and are very difficult to diagnose.
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Postby Jarry » Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:39 pm

roseway wrote:In my opinion, money spent on a good quality power supply with plenty of spare capacity is money well spent.


Ah, so not just me then :)
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Building from scratch... Advice needed

Postby heiowge » Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:23 pm

First part of my pc build bought. Cost £35 against which I part exed an eatx server motherboard for £25.

I have not been able to use the server board myself and got it for free. Sweet.

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Postby penguinclaw » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:33 pm

Jarry wrote:A 750 watt power supply seems a bit excessive for that set-up. But then again £30 for a 750W supply is cheap. Presumably it's a generic type? I always worry a bit about the reliability of non-branded supplies but that's probably just me. Other people say they're fine.


No always get a good power supply. I've had one go wrong and fried almost everything including two hard-drives and motherboard. Also debugging the psu as the problem (it started with intermittent faults) was difficult.... or indeed too late in my case!!

I think money well spent on the motherboard will give you more choice to up-grade and install more hardware in the future. On that note make sure your case will be big enough for the GPU you decide upon. A big case will allow obviously more room to add extra hardware such as hard-drives but also aids in the cooling. I would also do research on your cooling. Large quiet fans will be more tolerable in the long term believe me.

As you have probably noticed I have not been specific on brands or models as I believe the research that you do yourself will greatly increase your knowledge of system building. However as mentioned by purplepenguin above, I also rate Asus motherboards as being very good ;)
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Postby heiowge » Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:19 pm

Cheers. I have already decided to switch to an Asus motherboard. Just need to find out which models are compatible with the i5...
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Postby heiowge » Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:15 pm

Ok. Because of advice given here and elsewhere, I've decided I'm probably gonna buy this processor.

http://www.ebuyer.com/538192-intel-core ... tAod8DgA0g


Can anyone help me pick out a decent enough ASUS motherboard and power supply from the same site to go with it please? The old socket 1150 / haswell thingy has me confused. I don't want to end up with a motherboard I can't use.

I need it to support up to 4x4GB DDR3 RAM, a reasonable graphics card (prob 1-2 GB nVidia), 2+ hard disks, DVD drive (both SATA), and I need to use up 2 PCI-E bays for my USB 2.0 card and my fan card. My case has 4 fans atm that'll need power as well.

Use? Dual boot Win7 (for games like Bioshock and FarCry 3) and Linux Mint for everything else. Budget? £75 really, but I need to keep both under 100 total. I don't mind paying a bit more if I can get better stability.

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Postby heiowge » Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:11 pm

Ok. My budget is in. £245 for the moment. So I'm gonna get the motherboard, processor and power supply and save getting the graphics card for later.

I'm looking at getting these:

http://www.ebuyer.com/538192-intel-core ... 0646i54440

http://www.ebuyer.com/517867-h87m-e-s11 ... f50-m0eay0

Can someone with more brainpower than me please check that these are 100% compatible? If so, can anyone recommend a decent enough power supply I can get with the £50 odd quid I've got left?

Ta. xx
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Postby heiowge » Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:57 pm

UPDATE TIME!!!

My new machine is finally on the way. I currently have:

1: Vantage Gamer case
2: Asus H87M-E motherboard
3: Intel Core i5 4440 3.10GHz
4: 2x 4GB DDR3 1333 RAM
5: 2x Seagate 500GB HD
6: DVD drive (forget the make)

On way:

7: Coolermaster GM-Series 750W Semi Modular 80+ Bronze Power Supply
8: Gigabyte GTX 650 2GB GDDR5 VGA Dual DVI HDMI PCI-E Graphics Card

:D

Thanks people! You rule! :D
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Postby Dutch_Master » Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:51 pm

Very good! I was about to offer you some parts free of charge, but as you're sorted now they'll stay here then :P
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Postby heiowge » Thu May 01, 2014 7:50 am

Thanks. :D

I was doing great with it all until this morning. I went to order track the PSU to see whether it was coming today instead of tomorrow (ebuyer have a habit of delivering early). There's no record of the order! I have a record of my paypal payment, but the order number isn't recognised! :x

So I'm waiting until they open at 9 to shout at someone!

****edit****

I just got through. The PSU is out for dispatch today. No-one seems to know why the order isn't listed on the track site. :?
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