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Changing OS on Packer Bell 2.9GHz

Postby Rich_b21 » Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:03 pm

I would like some advice please on the following PC running XP

Packard Bell 2.9GHz
Name IMEDIA 1328
Model Type UTOW-SAM
MSIOHQL No: SAN1058593
S/No: 049652020726
PID 0496520207P/No: PB34225201

Has 2 hard drives fitted (not sure of the Size, 1 for Programmes 1 Data) and 256MB Ram.

I will be installing a new OS and at least 1GB ram possibly 2 GB.

This PC belongs to a neighbour and she would like to be able to use Spotify, do proof reading and read emails.

At first I was thinking of installing Windows 7 but because it's “Windows “and the cost, I am now looking at Mint12 or Ubuntu 11.10

Q1/ Could you recommend Mint 12 or Ubuntu 11.10 and could I use 64bit install or should I 32 bit ? I am using Ubuntu 11.10 but Mint 12 sounds very good.

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Postby thenudehamster » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:54 am

First question you need to ask is whether you actually have a 64-bit processor; the spec you give is not clear. If the CPU is only 32-bit you're constrained anyway, but for the most part your user probably won't notice the difference between the two anyway - and there isn't that much dedicated 64-bit software anyway. I have a number of machines running different systems; most have 64-bit processors but all my Linux is 32-bit, and I can't tell the difference.

Regarding which flavour of Linux you use, that's largely a matter of choice; I have machines with both. I like Unity on Ubuntu, although I feel the latest improvements have actually made it less easy and intuitive to use. The downside is the colour schemes; drab and dreary is being kind.
Mint12 on the other hand uses Gnome3, which runs in a more traditional fashion using familiar menus rather than the Launcher of Unity. Even better is the Cinnamon interface, but even so it is a much brighter and more cheerful interface. If you can, try both; they both have Live CDs (or DVDs) so you can try them out without actually installing.
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Postby Rich_b21 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:31 pm

Thanks for info, very helpful. I will stick to 32bit

The processor is a Celetron Pentium.

The PC has 2 HD C/ 22.23GB D/ 36.48GB

HD C/ sounds a little noisey.

I have not heard of "Cinnamon interface" where can this be obtain from.

I have both Mint12 and Ubuntu11.10 DVD's so I can try them.

Q 1/ As the neighbour wishes to use Spotify can it RUN on ALL

the OS?

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Postby thenudehamster » Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:33 pm

I lost track of Intel's chip naming convention ages ago, but IIRC Pentiums of any flavour are 32-bit anyway.

Both hard drives look a little small in today's terms, but you should be able to fit a Linux installation on one of them. With so little space, you may be better off with Xunbuntu which uses the lightweight Xfce desktop, or possibly Mint LXDE, the DE of which is barely more than a window manager. Some of the modern environments need way better graphics performance than your system will have. Still, anything you install will, with any luck, either have a very basic modes or will tell you in no uncertain terms if your hardware isn't up to running it.

Cinnamon is available direct from the Mint repositories, so if you install that, Synaptic will need no additions to find it. Take a look at http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com to get an idea of what it looks like, and to find the PPA addresses to add for other distros.

I've never used Spotify, but as far as I understand all the hard work is done at their end; the problem you may have is that photos may take a long time to upload and download if your machine isn't particularly fast.

Try it and see what happens.
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Postby wyliecoyoteuk » Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:33 pm

Spotify free will only run on windows.Only the paid for version has a Linux client.
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Postby Rich_b21 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:51 pm

Thank you for the info to both of you

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Spotify Install & Treminal

Postby Rich_b21 » Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:23 am

I have as stated above installed Ubuntu 11.10 from .ISO CD
All is working OK accept I can not find Terminal on this new installation even pressing Ctrl+T

Below are the instructions I have for installing Premiun addition of Spotify.

Please could you help me

Thanks

Richard

As we haven't found a reliable way to display ads yet, this version is only available to Spotify Premium and Unlimited subscribers.
Debian
# 1. Add this line to your list of repositories by
# editing your /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free

# 2. If you want to verify the downloaded packages,
# you will need to add our public key
sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 4E9CFF4E

# 3. Run apt-get update
sudo apt-get update

# 4. Install spotify!
sudo apt-get install spotify-client-qt
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Editing /etc/apt/source.list

Postby Rich_b21 » Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:46 pm

I obtain from Spotify (see above, Sorry should have been CtrlAlt+t) and ADDED this to source file below.

When I tried save /etc/apt/sources.list. I got the following
Please advise what I have done wrong

Could not save the file /etc/apt/sources.list.

june@june-00000000000000000000000:~$ sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 4E9CFF4E
[sudo] password for june:
Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring --secret-keyring /tmp/tmp.N9Nms2Qgnj --trustdb-name /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --primary-keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 4E9CFF4E
gpg: requesting key 4E9CFF4E from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
gpg: key 4E9CFF4E: public key "Spotify Public Repository Signing Key <operations@spotify.com>" imported
gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg: imported: 1
june@june-00000000000000000000000:~$ sudo apt-get update

Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com oneiric-backports/universe Translation-en
Reading package lists... Done
june@june-00000000000000000000000:~$ sudo apt-get install spotify-client-qt
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package spotify-client-qt
june@june-00000000000000000000000:~$ :roll: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
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Postby Dutch_Master » Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:30 pm

Code: Select all
sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
Then add the line you've quoted in your previous message andstart again.

Note: please use the code tags (like I did) to distinguish between what you're saying and the output of commands you've given.... :roll: Omitting them makes posts like those above highly incomprehensible and could cause members to skip helping you...
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Postby Rich_b21 » Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:05 pm

Sorry, I am new to this and did not wish to leave out something that could be important that could help you.

Thanks for the info.

I will try it on June's computer on Monday

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Code Tags

Postby Rich_b21 » Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:30 am

Dutch_Master wrote:
Code: Select all
sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
Then add the line you've quoted in your previous message andstart again.

Note: please use the code tags (like I did) to distinguish between what you're saying and the output of commands you've given.... :roll: Omitting them makes posts like those above highly incomprehensible and could cause members to skip helping you...


Please let me know how to use/display "Code Tags" in my message to this Linux Format forum.

Thanks again Dutch_Master

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Postby Ram » Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:54 am

When posting, click the Code button above or type [ code ] without the spaces, paste what you need to display and click 'Close Tags' above or type [ /code ] again without spaces. [/code]

Or edit your last post and see how they are used in the quoted text you used.

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Postby Rich_b21 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:47 pm

Sorry about ALL this rubbish below, but repeated the inputs in terminal.

We are can SEE Spotify although we seem it the latest update

help please

Richard and June


june@june-00000000000000000000000:~$ sudo apt-get install spotify-client-qt
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
spotify-client-qt is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
E: Type ‘sudo’ is not known on line 4 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
E: The list of sources could not be read.
june@june-00000000000000000000000:~$
june@june-00000000000000000000000:~$ sudo apt-get update
[sudo] password for june:
E: Type ‘sudo’ is not known on line 7 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
E: The list of sources could not be read.

june@june-00000000000000000000000:~$ sudo apt-get update
[sudo] password for june:
E: Type ‘sudo’ is not known on line 7 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
E: The list of sources could not be read.
june@june-00000000000000000000000:~$ sudo apt-get install spotify-client-qt
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
spotify-client-qt is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
E: Type ‘sudo’ is not known on line 7 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
E: The list of sources could not be read.
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Postby Rich_b21 » Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:57 pm

Sorry I did understand all that was seeing, I am do this for neighbour a few doors away from me. I recommend Ubuntu 11.10 to her and she is please with it but would like to have Spotify if possible.

I have Deleted:-

# 2. If you want to verify the downloaded packages,
# you will need to add our public key
apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 4E9CFF4E

An RUN apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 4E9CFF4E; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install spotify-client-qt

this the end of listing from terminal:-

Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com oneiric-backports/universe Translation-en
Fetched 1,170 kB in 7s (154 kB/s)
Reading package lists... Done
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
spotify-client-qt is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 15 not upgraded.
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Postby Rich_b21 » Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:01 pm

Ran the following:-

sudo apt-get upgrade

clear; sudo apt-get update

Update ran smoothly

Hurray IT WORKED

June now has Spotify.

Thanks for your help to ALL :D
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