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heiowge LXF regular

Joined: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:21 pm Posts: 1795 Location: Cheshire, UK
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:14 pm Post subject: Letter... |
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As a long term Gnome user, I would like to personally thank the Ubuntu and Gnome teams for Unity and Gnome 3.
As a result of you lot messing with my beloved desktop, I have now permanently switched to KDE.
Learning to use KDE was a more pleasurable experience than the hellish times I've had recently trying to get both your new abominations to function without menu bars disappearing, applications crashing or my desktop booting to a plain black page.
KDE isn't Gnome, but it works and it's got a future, unlike Gnome 2.* _________________ AMD PHENOM II X6, 14 GB DDR3, 500 GB hd, 1GB nVidia card, running Linux Mint 14 KDE / Win 7. Damn thing keeps breaking.
eeepc 1015PX, 1.66 Ghz Intel atom processor, 2 GB DDR3, 320 GB hd running Mint 14 MATE. Running great. |
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lok1950 LXF regular

Joined: Tue May 31, 2005 6:31 am Posts: 958 Location: Ottawa
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Haven't tried it much yet still stuck in Win7 but I will give fedora's implementation of 3 a work out as soon as I get connectivity Linux side
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heiowge LXF regular

Joined: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:21 pm Posts: 1795 Location: Cheshire, UK
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, the Fedora implementation of G3 is probably better than it is on a Debian based distro. I don't know. I never got fedora15 out of classic mode successfully.
To be fair, it might have a better uptake if Gnome had bothered to offer it for Debian distros. I searched their forum and couldn't find a single reference to whether they plan to do so, or when. I suspect they're in a p*** with Ubuntu over Unity, and assume if you use it, you must want Unity. _________________ AMD PHENOM II X6, 14 GB DDR3, 500 GB hd, 1GB nVidia card, running Linux Mint 14 KDE / Win 7. Damn thing keeps breaking.
eeepc 1015PX, 1.66 Ghz Intel atom processor, 2 GB DDR3, 320 GB hd running Mint 14 MATE. Running great. |
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Dutch_Master LXF regular
Joined: Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:49 am Posts: 2354
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:45 am Post subject: |
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I use Debian. And I want neither... The Gnome 2 interface was/is fine as it is now, why change a winner anyway? Linux is for choice right? Then why push me a rubbish solution through the throat for a problem that doesn't exist?  |
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heiowge LXF regular

Joined: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:21 pm Posts: 1795 Location: Cheshire, UK
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:24 am Post subject: |
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Agreed. My concern is that in a years time, my OS won't support gnome2 anymore. _________________ AMD PHENOM II X6, 14 GB DDR3, 500 GB hd, 1GB nVidia card, running Linux Mint 14 KDE / Win 7. Damn thing keeps breaking.
eeepc 1015PX, 1.66 Ghz Intel atom processor, 2 GB DDR3, 320 GB hd running Mint 14 MATE. Running great. |
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paulm LXF regular
Joined: Mon Apr 03, 2006 5:53 am Posts: 216 Location: Oxfordshire, UK
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:09 am Post subject: |
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I'm glad to say that I've disliked Gnome for ages, hate KDE (wasn't fond of the 3.xx series even). So I'm going on as I was - Xfce all the way.....
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Nerdy-ish
Joined: Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:05 am Posts: 45 Location: Infront of computer
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:46 pm Post subject: Re: Letter... |
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| heiowge wrote: | | KDE isn't Gnome, but it works and it's got a future, unlike Gnome 2.* |
You would not have said that if you had to suffer from a FORCED upgrade from KDE3 to KDE4, when KDE4 was NOT ready and was VERY buggy. Also, many applications had to be ported from KDE3 to KDE4, and to this they there are still some that aren't.
To add insult to injury, the forced upgrade removed the path to "downgrade" back to KDE3. |
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heiowge LXF regular

Joined: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:21 pm Posts: 1795 Location: Cheshire, UK
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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Actually I did go through that. Luckily for me it was just when I had started using Linux, so switching to Gnome wasn't painful at all. This upgrade is only painful because I've got used to Gnome 2.* _________________ AMD PHENOM II X6, 14 GB DDR3, 500 GB hd, 1GB nVidia card, running Linux Mint 14 KDE / Win 7. Damn thing keeps breaking.
eeepc 1015PX, 1.66 Ghz Intel atom processor, 2 GB DDR3, 320 GB hd running Mint 14 MATE. Running great. |
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nelz Moderator

Joined: Mon Apr 04, 2005 12:52 pm Posts: 8002 Location: Warrington, UK
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 5:04 pm Post subject: Re: Letter... |
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| Nerdy-ish wrote: | | You would not have said that if you had to suffer from a FORCED upgrade from KDE3 to KDE4, when KDE4 was NOT ready and was VERY buggy. |
You can't blame KDE for that, they kept 3.5 going for a while and warned people about using early versions of 4 for anything but testing. But some distros decided to switch anyway. The downgrade path was simple, switch to a distro that gave its users reliable options.
BTW KDE 3.5 is still available and being worked on by the Trinity project. _________________ Unix is user-friendly. It's just very selective about who it's friends are. |
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ajgreeny LXF regular
Joined: Wed May 10, 2006 9:18 pm Posts: 407 Location: Oxfordshire.
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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@ helowge.
Have you looked at xfce yet, ie Xubuntu instead of the difficult to use Unity on 11.04?
I am still on Ubuntu 10.04 at the moment so Unity has not really affected me, but on my test partition install of 11.04, which will only run Unity 2d, I just can not find my way around it at all. Perhaps it will improve with 11.10 or 12.04, but if not, Xubuntu, which I have as 11.04 on another test partition, will probably become my choice, as I don't like KDE either now that it is v4, though I did like KDE 3.5.9. _________________ Ubuntu 10.04 user, and loving it! |
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heiowge LXF regular

Joined: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:21 pm Posts: 1795 Location: Cheshire, UK
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I tried XFCE. It's not bad, but I preferred the switch to KDE over the one to XFCE.
I guess XFCE looked too much like Gnome, so it annoyed me when it didn't work the same way. KDE looks different. In fact it looks like Windows 7. Any differences then remind me that it's not Windows, so I can celebrate rather than get in a p***.  _________________ AMD PHENOM II X6, 14 GB DDR3, 500 GB hd, 1GB nVidia card, running Linux Mint 14 KDE / Win 7. Damn thing keeps breaking.
eeepc 1015PX, 1.66 Ghz Intel atom processor, 2 GB DDR3, 320 GB hd running Mint 14 MATE. Running great. |
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Brian Hunter

Joined: Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:44 pm Posts: 74 Location: Glasgow, Scotland
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:43 am Post subject: |
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| I've been using Xfce for about 2 months now and it's really grown on me. I setup a new Arch install which uses Xfce and it has been the most fun I have had with Linux yet. A really interesting experience. |
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heiowge LXF regular

Joined: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:21 pm Posts: 1795 Location: Cheshire, UK
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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Well, it's been a week and I don't feel a burning need to return to Gnome. I have Gnome on my laptop and am seriously considering switching over there as well...
I tried lots of different distros and found it easier to switch desktop environment than to switch distro. I guess I just know all the software I use is in the repositories...
I guess I can say to Gnome and Ubuntu that I appreciate what you're trying to do, but I don't like it. So you've lost me as a user... until KDE 5 puts me off!  _________________ AMD PHENOM II X6, 14 GB DDR3, 500 GB hd, 1GB nVidia card, running Linux Mint 14 KDE / Win 7. Damn thing keeps breaking.
eeepc 1015PX, 1.66 Ghz Intel atom processor, 2 GB DDR3, 320 GB hd running Mint 14 MATE. Running great. |
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