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                                        <title>Re: PCLinuxOS Test Release 4 released!</title>
                                        <link>http://linuxformat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=64207#64207</link>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=60'&gt;Rhakios&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:34 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      If you are using Lenny, then I'dbe surprised if you have dkms-alsa. The dkms sytem (dynamic kernel module support) has only been used to any great extent by Mandriva and PCLinuxOS. I haven't found any for Debian, though if you have you could give it a go.&lt;br /&gt;
Dkms is mostly used to get non-native kernel modules set up to run against a kernel after a kernel update, for example, Mandriva use it for the Nvidia drivers and other non-free kernel modules.</description>
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                                        <author>Rhakios</author>
                                        <pubDate>Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:34 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: PCLinuxOS Test Release 4 released!</title>
                                        <link>http://linuxformat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=64193#64193</link>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=42025'&gt;branvan2k&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:05 am&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Hi Rhakios,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I have to say i'm not using PCLinuxOS, just found about my problem in this forum.&lt;br /&gt;
I'm using Debian Lenny with 2.6.24 and Fluxbox, so no KMix either...I guess If I install kdms-alsa-driver and use alsamixer will work as well, right?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Alba.</description>
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                                        <author>branvan2k</author>
                                        <pubDate>Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:05 am</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: PCLinuxOS Test Release 4 released!</title>
                                        <link>http://linuxformat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=64172#64172</link>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=60'&gt;Rhakios&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:39 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      I found that plugging in the headphones didn't mute sound either, but I just used to use KMix to do that instead. More recently, I have openSUSE11.0 installed on the laptop and muting does work automatically, so I expect that the next version of PCLinuxOS will be able to as well.</description>
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                                        <author>Rhakios</author>
                                        <pubDate>Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:39 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: PCLinuxOS Test Release 4 released!</title>
                                        <link>http://linuxformat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=64160#64160</link>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=42025'&gt;branvan2k&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:17 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Hi Davecs,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I've got a laptop (Compaq Presario C735EM) with Intel 82801H HD Audio (ICH8) and Codec: Conexant ID 5051. &lt;br /&gt;
The Speakers don't mute when I plug headphones and I can't find any solution for that.&lt;br /&gt;
I've found this thread today and I was wondering if installing kdms-alsa-driver will work for me...&lt;br /&gt;
Do you still want info about the installation?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cheers,&lt;br /&gt;
Alba.</description>
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                                        <author>branvan2k</author>
                                        <pubDate>Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:17 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: PCLinuxOS Test Release 4 released!</title>
                                        <link>http://linuxformat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=43506#43506</link>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=205'&gt;davecs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 5:53 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Thanks, Rhakios, I forwarded your replies to the gang and shortly afterwards Texstar informed us that the Intel graphics driver had been moved to Stable.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We need to get more info out about dkms-alsa-driver and when people should install it, that's for sure, and it's one hell of a compile, but if it gets more modern sound systems going, then it's something we have to use!</description>
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                                        <author>davecs</author>
                                        <pubDate>Tue May 01, 2007 5:53 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Loving PClinuxOS TR4...</title>
                                        <link>http://linuxformat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=43464#43464</link>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=12336'&gt;roseway&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:45 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Philbo wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;Any one know how to repo's to the package manager?&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sorry, I don't understand the question. The default installation comes with an appropriate repo enabled.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Quote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;Can you use Debian or Ubuntu repo's in the Synaptic Pakager manager?&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No. They use a totally different package format.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Quote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;As it was based on Mandriva can you add mandriva sources to the package manager?&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You can, but it's definitely not recommended. Although PCLOS started off as a derivative of Mandriva, it's been tweaked and recompiled very extensively, and you could mess up your setup by installing packages from Mandriva.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Quote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;I'm trying to find a PClinuxOS repo to install libkdebase4 - any idea's&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
KDE4 isn't due for release until the autumn. I'm not sure why you would want one component of it now.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Eric</description>
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                                        <author>roseway</author>
                                        <pubDate>Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:45 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: PCLinuxOS Test Release 4 released!</title>
                                        <link>http://linuxformat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=43462#43462</link>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=60'&gt;Rhakios&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:29 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;davecs wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Could you let me know your soundcard details so I can report it here? dkms-alsa-driver adds more sound card drivers to the standard kernel, I've never needed it all my sound cards always worked. I'll pass your h/w details to the dev team.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I would have got back to you sooner, but sleep and work have intervened. The sound card is:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(as identified by lspci). It was and according to the hardware detection tool, still is, using the snd-hda-intel alsa module, which is why I don't know if it was installing devfsd or the dkms package that cured it. I was following two lines of thought when I installed them, and they were the only two packages I installed before it started working. It had been through at least four boot cycles befroe that without any joy.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Quote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
You wouldn't want dkms-alsa-driver installed as standard, it takes so long to compile when you install a new kernel!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I noticed when I installed it, as Synaptic seemed to be hanging, but as top showed cc1 and make were in action, I suspected I knew what was going on.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Quote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Is everything else working OK?&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was expecting problems with the Intel 945GM graphics and had already found out I could get 915resolution from testing to fix it. However, I didn't even get the fall-back 1024x768 resolution (which has happened with most other distros), I got no X server at all. I fixed this by running XFdrake, the monitor was set up as Custom, but undefined (which was what was causing the problem) setting it to 1280x800x60Hz got me the fall-back resolution of 1024x768 and after installation, using 915resolution got me the correct resolution.&lt;br /&gt;
The other bits that don't work, I wasn't expecting to.</description>
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                                        <author>Rhakios</author>
                                        <pubDate>Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:29 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Loving PClinuxOS TR4...</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=7513'&gt;Philbo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:08 am&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      I have installed PClinuxOS TR4 on my Compaq Evo N610c and it runs like a dream. I have never used PClinuxOS before but was advised by a friend after their positive experience. I used a Combination of OpenSUSE  &amp;amp; Ubuntu on my PC's, but not PClinuxOS.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The only thing I'm stuggling with is getting my USB wireless to work (DWL-G132) which I'm search the net to find a resolution for.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As I've never used this distro before I have a few questions...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any one know how to repo's to the package manager?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Can you use Debian or Ubuntu repo's in the Synaptic Pakager manager?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As it was based on Mandriva can you add mandriva sources to the package manager?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I'm trying to find a PClinuxOS repo to install libkdebase4 - any idea's&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
thanks&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Philbo</description>
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                                        <author>Philbo</author>
                                        <pubDate>Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:08 am</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: PCLinuxOS Test Release 4 released!</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=205'&gt;davecs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:51 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Rhakios wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;Hmm got it installed on my laptop now. It took quite some time to get sound working, there wasn't anything I could use on the PCLOS forums, but it started working after I installed devfsd and dkms-alsa-driver and rebooted.&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Could you let me know your soundcard details so I can report it here? dkms-alsa-driver adds more sound card drivers to the standard kernel, I've never needed it all my sound cards always worked. I'll pass your h/w details to the dev team.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You wouldn't want dkms-alsa-driver installed as standard, it takes so long to compile when you install a new kernel!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Is everything else working OK?</description>
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                                        <author>davecs</author>
                                        <pubDate>Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:51 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: PCLinuxOS Test Release 4 released!</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=60'&gt;Rhakios&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:22 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Hmm got it installed on my laptop now. It took quite some time to get sound working, there wasn't anything I could use on the PCLOS forums, but it started working after I installed devfsd and dkms-alsa-driver and rebooted.</description>
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                                        <author>Rhakios</author>
                                        <pubDate>Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:22 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: RE: Re: RE: PCLinuxOS Test Release 4 released!</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=205'&gt;davecs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 2:26 am&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;flashdangerpants wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;when the full fat version is released will i be able to upgrade from tr4 without reinstalling etc?&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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You can never be 100% certain, because something can happen, but I think that the final will be TR4 plus a couple of updates. The only new thing that might affect the installation is a script to add &quot;resume=/dev/{swapdevice}&quot; to the append lines in /boot/grub/menu.lst&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Or for the non-technical, you won't have to edit a configuration file by hand in order for your laptop (or desktop for that matter) to be able to recover from a &quot;Suspend to Disk&quot;. If that is something you don't fancy doing (instrcutions at the site), then by all means hand on for final, otherwise I think you may as well get on with it.</description>
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                                        <author>davecs</author>
                                        <pubDate>Sun Apr 29, 2007 2:26 am</pubDate>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=25'&gt;M0PHP&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:23 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      davecs: Yeah I know, I know...it's still good! &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_smile.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Smile&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt; There's just something in the back of my mind, always there - reminding me I should be using something debian-based if I don't &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_razz.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Razz&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Just installing it now... &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_smile.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Smile&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt; Depending on how well I get on with it, I'll probably keep it installed until Fluxbuntu gets released - &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic&quot;&gt;maybe&lt;/span&gt; even longer  &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_cool.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Cool&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;</description>
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                                        <author>M0PHP</author>
                                        <pubDate>Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:23 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>RE: Re: RE: PCLinuxOS Test Release 4 released!</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=5572'&gt;flashdangerpants&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:05 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      when the full fat version is released will i be able to upgrade from tr4 without reinstalling etc?</description>
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                                        <author>flashdangerpants</author>
                                        <pubDate>Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:05 pm</pubDate>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=205'&gt;davecs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:37 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;M0PHP wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;I'm looking forward to trying this out on my main box tonight. I just wish it was based on debian! &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_razz.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Razz&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Well with Synaptic as a front-end for &quot;apt-4-rpm&quot;, and the attention to detail regarding dependencies, you'd be hard-pressed to see the difference!</description>
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                                        <author>davecs</author>
                                        <pubDate>Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:37 pm</pubDate>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=25'&gt;M0PHP&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:11 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      I'm looking forward to trying this out on my main box tonight. I just wish it was based on debian! &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_razz.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Razz&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;</description>
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                                        <author>M0PHP</author>
                                        <pubDate>Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:11 pm</pubDate>
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