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                                        <title>Re: Why oh why oh why...</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=5'&gt;nelz&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:41 am&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Bazza&lt;/span&gt; did state &amp;quot;for those who don't get it&amp;quot;, which certainly applies to 1sf.</description>
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                                        <author>nelz</author>
                                        <pubDate>Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:41 am</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Why oh why oh why...</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=60'&gt;Rhakios&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:26 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Really, &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Bazza&lt;/span&gt;, I think most of the users of this forum would have got it...&lt;br /&gt;
You shouldn't let 1sf drag your estimation of the intelligence of others so low.</description>
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                                        <author>Rhakios</author>
                                        <pubDate>Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:26 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Why oh why oh why...</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=58561'&gt;Bazza&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:14 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Hi Rhakios...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; And I thought it was what two lumberjacks do when&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; cutting down a tree together. &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_wink.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Wink&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Just for those who don`t get it...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
co-axing...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
GROAN!</description>
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                                        <author>Bazza</author>
                                        <pubDate>Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:14 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Why oh why oh why...</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=60'&gt;Rhakios&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:40 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      And I thought it was what two lumberjacks do when cutting down a tree together.  &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_wink.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Wink&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;</description>
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                                        <author>Rhakios</author>
                                        <pubDate>Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:40 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Why oh why oh why...</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=5'&gt;nelz&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:23 am&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      There is now &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_razz.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Razz&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;</description>
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                                        <author>nelz</author>
                                        <pubDate>Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:23 am</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Why oh why oh why...</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=58561'&gt;Bazza&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:39 am&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Hi nelz...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; I hadn't realised this referred to powercycling the router,&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; I thought it meant you wrapped plenty of shielded cable&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; around it &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_razz.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Razz&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hmmm, I guess I should have expected that from you... ;o]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But, I don`t think there is such a word as &amp;quot;coaxing&amp;quot; WRT&lt;br /&gt;
electrical cable. &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_razz.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Razz&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;</description>
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                                        <author>Bazza</author>
                                        <pubDate>Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:39 am</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Why oh why oh why...</title>
                                        <link>http://linuxformat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=92878#92878</link>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=5'&gt;nelz&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:28 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bazza wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;Did the power down routine twice, that was why I wrote...&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;no amount of coaxing&amp;quot;... &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_surprised.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Surprised&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;(&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I hadn't realised this referred to powercycling the router, I thought it meant you wrapped plenty of shielded cable around it &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_razz.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Razz&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;</description>
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                                        <author>nelz</author>
                                        <pubDate>Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:28 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Why oh why oh why...</title>
                                        <link>http://linuxformat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=92868#92868</link>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2793'&gt;MartyBartfast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:33 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      A couple of non hardware possibilites:-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You picked up a connection from another wireless router, not your own. If this was the case you might or might not get an IP address, and if you did you might still be unable to do anything. If you've now got connected to your own router then the problem would disappear.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You had a duplicate IP address that's being used by something else on your network, this could cause  all sorts of odd things to happen. If that other box is now down or has obtained another address then your problem would disappear.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You'll probably never know what was wrong, unless it happens again  &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_eek.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Shocked&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;</description>
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                                        <author>MartyBartfast</author>
                                        <pubDate>Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:33 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Why oh why oh why...</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=58561'&gt;Bazza&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:11 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Hi wyliecoyoteuk...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you mean a total power down of the netbook, including&lt;br /&gt;
battery removal for at least 3 minutes, then this was one&lt;br /&gt;
of my first tests... &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_surprised.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Surprised&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;(&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nothing worked...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All of the other wireless connected Windows machines&lt;br /&gt;
were working however... &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_surprised.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Surprised&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;/</description>
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                                        <author>Bazza</author>
                                        <pubDate>Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:11 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Why oh why oh why...</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=231'&gt;wyliecoyoteuk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:04 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Common one with wifi cards is that the Firmware sometimes needs a cold boot to reload it.&lt;br /&gt;
Especially infuriating on a dual boot machine.</description>
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                                        <author>wyliecoyoteuk</author>
                                        <pubDate>Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:04 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Why oh why oh why...</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=58561'&gt;Bazza&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:45 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Hi Nelz et al...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Did the power down routine twice, that was why I wrote...&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;no amount of coaxing&amp;quot;... &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_surprised.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Surprised&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;(&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I really have no idea why and not much gets past me... &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_surprised.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Surprised&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
BTW it is on the &amp;quot;Other OS&amp;quot; forum as the network is Windows&lt;br /&gt;
based... :'(</description>
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                                        <author>Bazza</author>
                                        <pubDate>Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:45 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Why oh why oh why...</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=26409'&gt;heiowge&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:20 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      I had issues with my wifi that way.  I reset the router and all was fine.  Maybe it was as simple as that.</description>
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                                        <author>heiowge</author>
                                        <pubDate>Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:20 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Why oh why oh why...</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=5'&gt;nelz&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:56 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      When I've seen this sort of behaviour, it was usually caused by the modem/router, power cycling that generally got things working again.</description>
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                                        <author>nelz</author>
                                        <pubDate>Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:56 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Why oh why oh why...</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=58561'&gt;Bazza&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:33 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Hi goons...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Apologies for typos I am using my netbook.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The story so far...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Well my notebook has developed a fault with the wireless card&lt;br /&gt;
and I can`t be arsed to find out what is wrong with it, as it is at&lt;br /&gt;
least 4 years old now.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It was connected to the works network for quite a while during&lt;br /&gt;
the working day but when the failure occured a couple of weeks&lt;br /&gt;
ago I decided to use this netbook running PCLinuxOS 2009.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Well LAST Monday I went through the setup and it all worked fine.&lt;br /&gt;
And it logged in Tuesday, Wendesday and Thursady all fine.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Come last Friday it would not get into the system.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Modem/Router was there and was talking to my netbook&lt;br /&gt;
but no network... WHAT?!?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No amount of coaxing would get me into the network so&lt;br /&gt;
after hours of messing about I got very pissed off and&lt;br /&gt;
abandoned it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Today Monday 13th September 2010 and I`m up and running&lt;br /&gt;
as though nothing has happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
WTF! Any ideas?&lt;br /&gt;
I haven`t got any...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So here I am writing this story to you and uploading via the works&lt;br /&gt;
network,(shrugs).</description>
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                                        <author>Bazza</author>
                                        <pubDate>Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:33 pm</pubDate>
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