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Re: Steve Jobs to WSJ, ditch dying Flash technology

LeeNukes — Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:59 am

Author: LeeNukes

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:59 am

The gnash team must be gutted.

AndyBaxman wrote:

I assume that the BBC is having its arm twisted by the rights holders of (some of) the programmes it places on iPlayer.

I imaging the choice was "protect this content (from copying) or remove it". In other words p*ss of a relatively small number of FOSS fans or be forced to remove a large number of programmes and p*ss of a lot more people.

Re: Steve Jobs to WSJ, ditch dying Flash technology

AndyBaxman — Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:59 am

Author: AndyBaxman

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:59 am

I assume that the BBC is having its arm twisted by the rights holders of (some of) the programmes it places on iPlayer.

I imaging the choice was "protect this content (from copying) or remove it". In other words p*ss of a relatively small number of FOSS fans or be forced to remove a large number of programmes and p*ss of a lot more people.

Re: Steve Jobs to WSJ, ditch dying Flash technology

Bazza — Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:27 pm

Author: Bazza

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:27 pm

Hi AndyBaxman...

Thanks for that...

I wonder why a PUBLIC broadcaster, paid for by the public,
wishes to remove around 10% of its payers from
viewing/listening to its content. Hmmm, is it now a fully
fledged business?
If so then let advertising pay for their licen(ce)/(se) and
running costs, that way they can decide how to stream
their content. As we are paying them then we should have
the choice of how to receive stream it...

I wonder if we have legal rights on this one?

Re: Steve Jobs to WSJ, ditch dying Flash technology

AndyBaxman — Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:52 pm

Author: AndyBaxman

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:52 pm

Speaking of Flash.....

BBC iPlayer rejects open source plugins, takes Flash-only path

Re: Steve Jobs to WSJ, ditch dying Flash technology

Bazza — Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:55 pm

Author: Bazza

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:55 pm

Hi nelz...

> It sounds more like something Ming the Merciless would
> shout

He he, I remeber it the first time round. Oooooooh dems
sparklers outta da back of the space machine... ;o)

Re: Steve Jobs to WSJ, ditch dying Flash technology

nelz — Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:51 pm

Author: nelz

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:51 pm

It sounds more like something Ming the Merciless would shout

Re: Steve Jobs to WSJ, ditch dying Flash technology

RedWillow — Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:48 am

Author: RedWillow

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:48 am

M-Saunders wrote:

Death to Flash!

Sounds like a war-cry from one of the endless battle scenes in Lord of the Rings. Question is: is Steve Jobs an orc, elf, goblin or hobbit?

Whatever - is anyone up to writing a marching song based on this sentiment?

Re: Steve Jobs to WSJ, ditch dying Flash technology

M-Saunders — Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:21 am

Author: M-Saunders

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:21 am

Jobs is absolutely right. As Ollie says the alternatives are not perfect, but here's hoping - with time - that the combination of canvas, animated SVG, and ideally a free video format will become mature enough to replace them.

Today we have good competition in the browser world and increasing convergence towards standards (even IE is getting better). Having a binary blob from a single company involved in all of this is lame. Flash is a horrible old relic, and it doesn't help that it's almost comically badly programmed.

Death to Flash!

M

Re: Steve Jobs to WSJ, ditch dying Flash technology

donoreo — Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:12 pm

Author: donoreo

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:12 pm

If Apple does it, it make make Adobe give their head a shake and fix the damned thing.

Re: Steve Jobs to WSJ, ditch dying Flash technology

ollie — Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:01 am

Author: ollie

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:01 am

Flash is buggy and does cause problems, it's just that h.264 isn't a suitable replacement. H.264/MPEG-4 AVC is a standard for video compression, which doesn't doesn't include interactivity. Part of the problem is that there is no replacement that does everything that Flash does in one package. This leads web developers to push Flash to it's limits and beyond.

Re: Steve Jobs to WSJ, ditch dying Flash technology

wyliecoyoteuk — Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:48 pm

Author: wyliecoyoteuk

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:48 pm

sorry, but I agree with him.
Flash is buggy, insecure, resource hungry, proprietary junk.
The sooner that Flash and ActiveX die the better, IMHO.

Steve Jobs to WSJ, ditch dying Flash technology

Bazza — Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:39 pm

Author: Bazza

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:39 pm

Hi all...

Arrogant Apple A**hole...

http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/02/steve-jobs-to-wsj-ditch-dying-flash-technology.ars