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                                        <title>Linux Format Newsletter -- #47, April 2009</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=252'&gt;M-Saunders&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 11:40 am&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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    LINUX FORMAT WEBSITE NEWSLETTER -- #47, APRIL 2009&lt;br /&gt;
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CONTENTS&lt;br /&gt;
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  1. Welcome&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  2. LXF 118 on sale&lt;br /&gt;
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  3. In the news...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  4. This month on the forum&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  5. Special Newsletter feature&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  6. Coming up next issue&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  7. Receiving this Newsletter&lt;br /&gt;
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  8. Contact details&lt;br /&gt;
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                       1. Welcome&lt;br /&gt;
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As those of you who tuned into the latest TuxRadar podcast &lt;br /&gt;
(http://tuxradar.com/podcast) know, we met up with Ubuntu founder &lt;br /&gt;
Mark Shuttleworth recently to discuss KDE vs Gnome, the future of &lt;br /&gt;
Linux on the desktop, and many other topics important to the &lt;br /&gt;
community. We'll have a full interview with the Benevolent Dictator &lt;br /&gt;
For Life in an upcoming issue of Linux Format.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What struck me about Canonical's offices, though, was the level of &lt;br /&gt;
activity: when we last visited a few years ago, there was just Mark &lt;br /&gt;
and a couple of hackers beavering away. Today there are rows of &lt;br /&gt;
desks with people working on press releases, schedules, planning and &lt;br /&gt;
more. Whether you're an Ubuntu fan or not, it's great to see so many &lt;br /&gt;
people working to get free software out to the masses.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Anyway, read on for the lowdown on Linux Format issue 118, a roundup &lt;br /&gt;
of the hottest news stories and forum threads, and a special feature &lt;br /&gt;
on the shiny new ext4 filesystem that's heading to a distro near you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oh, and if you haven't seen it yet, we've got a new special edition &lt;br /&gt;
of the magazine on sale called Compose, Design, Create! This bumper &lt;br /&gt;
130-page guide shows you how to compose music, make websites and &lt;br /&gt;
edit graphics like a pro - grab a copy today from &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/lxfcreate&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://tinyurl.com/lxfcreate&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Mike Saunders&lt;br /&gt;
Newsletter Editor&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:Mike.Saunders@futurenet.com&quot;&gt;Mike.Saunders@futurenet.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                    2. LXF 118 on sale&lt;br /&gt;
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Distros, distros and more distros... Sometimes it's easy to get lost &lt;br /&gt;
in the bewildering range of Linux flavours available. And even for &lt;br /&gt;
long-term users who have a rough idea of what each distro does, &lt;br /&gt;
there's rarely time to try them all out in depth. So this month our &lt;br /&gt;
cover feature pinpoints the perfect distro for you, whether you're a &lt;br /&gt;
power user, newbie, programmer or gamer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Talking of games, World of Goo is taking the world by storm and&lt;br /&gt;
is arguably the best entertainment title ever to appear on Linux.&lt;br /&gt;
Don't miss our full review to find out why this taxing puzzler is&lt;br /&gt;
so addictive.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On the tutorials front we show you how to remodel your dwelling&lt;br /&gt;
in Sweet Home 3D, install a new distro on your Aspire One netbook,&lt;br /&gt;
hack web pages with GreaseMonkey and back up your partitions using&lt;br /&gt;
the mighty power of CloneZilla. On the 4GB DVD you'll find a special&lt;br /&gt;
version of Debian 5 (aka Lenny) as prepared by Steve McIntyre, the&lt;br /&gt;
Debian Project Leader. Rock on!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here's a sample from our regular great-software-discovering&lt;br /&gt;
HotPicks section:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  # Deluge 1.1.3 -- &lt;a href=&quot;http://deluge-torrent.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://deluge-torrent.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  Nowadays, BitTorrent is pushed heavily by most of the major Linux &lt;br /&gt;
  distributions and quite a few of the smaller ones too, so it &lt;br /&gt;
  should be no surprise that BitTorrent clients abound in the Linux&lt;br /&gt;
  ecosystem. Deluge is one such client, vying for space among the &lt;br /&gt;
  more firmly established BT clients such as Azureus and &lt;br /&gt;
  Transmission; the question is, should you take a look or should &lt;br /&gt;
  you stick to what you already know? If you're reading HotPicks &lt;br /&gt;
  then you should know by now that the correct answer is the former &lt;br /&gt;
  one, and it was with great enthusiasm that we downloaded Deluge &lt;br /&gt;
  and set about seeing just what is so special about it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  For starters, Deluge offers a plugin-based architecture giving &lt;br /&gt;
  you the opportunity to extend its functionality should you need &lt;br /&gt;
  to, although at the time of writing extra plugins were being &lt;br /&gt;
  worked on. Equally at home in either Gnome or KDE, Deluge only &lt;br /&gt;
  really requires Python and PyGTK to be installed before compiling &lt;br /&gt;
  from source using 'python setup.py build' followed by 'python &lt;br /&gt;
  setup.py install'.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  Alternatively, packages are maintained for Ubuntu derivatives for &lt;br /&gt;
  those of you who prefer to avoid compiling from source. When this&lt;br /&gt;
  is completed, you'll find Deluge under your internet menu and &lt;br /&gt;
  ready to go; all you have to do is find some torrents to feed it &lt;br /&gt;
  with.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  Deluge's user interface is relatively simple. The usual options to &lt;br /&gt;
  control bandwidth, number of peers and share ratios are present, &lt;br /&gt;
  as well as informative tabs to give you more details on what's &lt;br /&gt;
  going on with each torrent download. You're even able to set &lt;br /&gt;
  individual controls for each torrent, allowing you to prioritise &lt;br /&gt;
  the download of one torrent over another to give you granular &lt;br /&gt;
  control of your downloading.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  The primary goal of Deluge is to provide a torrent client that's &lt;br /&gt;
  not going to hog your system while it's working behind the scenes; &lt;br /&gt;
  we'd say that it's pretty spot on and is a worthy competitor to &lt;br /&gt;
  the other clients currently out there. Its minimal dependencies &lt;br /&gt;
  and low resource usage mean it scores high marks with us.&lt;br /&gt;
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Head over to the LXF website and click on the right-hand issue cover&lt;br /&gt;
picture for more information on Linux Format 118.&lt;br /&gt;
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                     3. In the news&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
The biggest developments around the net...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# Red Hat: No money in desktop Linux&lt;br /&gt;
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tuxradar.com/content/red-hat-no-money-desktop-linux&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.tuxradar.com/content/red-hat-no-money-desktop-linux&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No mincing of words here. Ever since Red Hat dropped its Linux boxed &lt;br /&gt;
set in favour of Fedora, the company has demonstrated a lack of &lt;br /&gt;
interest in the mainstream desktop. Now, at the InfoWorld Open &lt;br /&gt;
Source Business Conference in San Francisco, Red Hat CEO Jim &lt;br /&gt;
Whitehurst has reaffirmed his company's position on Linux for the &lt;br /&gt;
masses.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# Kernel 2.6.29 released, with new logo&lt;br /&gt;
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tuxradar.com/content/kernel-2629-released-new-logo&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.tuxradar.com/content/kernel-2629-released-new-logo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We love a new kernel release as much as anybody. Especially when it &lt;br /&gt;
includes a shedload of new features such as the Btrfs file system, &lt;br /&gt;
video mode setting (to simplify interaction between X and the &lt;br /&gt;
kernel) and a new 'no journal' mode for ext4. Oh, and full support &lt;br /&gt;
for 4,096 CPUs -- we'll get round to building that rig later. But &lt;br /&gt;
best of all, to highlight the plight of Tasmanian Devils in &lt;br /&gt;
Australia, Linus has rolled in a change to the boot-up logo.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# SUSE Linux Enterprise 11 is here&lt;br /&gt;
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tuxradar.com/content/suse-linux-enterprise-11-here&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.tuxradar.com/content/suse-linux-enterprise-11-here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Novell's epic-length press release for SLE11 just landed in our &lt;br /&gt;
inboxes, and there are a few interesting points worth picking out. &lt;br /&gt;
It reveals Novell's corporate latest takes on the recession, &lt;br /&gt;
Microsoft .NET, virtualisation and cloud computing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
That old chestnut of distro-independent packages came up again, &lt;br /&gt;
spurred on by the discussion in TuxRadar podcast episode 4. Jolharg &lt;br /&gt;
suggested that we all team together to make a &quot;universal package &lt;br /&gt;
manager&quot;, which Rhakios countered by saying that Autopackage already &lt;br /&gt;
did a good enough job - if ony more people used it. Various &lt;br /&gt;
technical aspects were discussed with lots of good ideas, but the &lt;br /&gt;
biggest question still remains: how can all distros put aside their &lt;br /&gt;
own efforts and work together on a single package format? [1]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
X.org, and XFree86 before it, has always been a pain when it doesn't &lt;br /&gt;
work correctly. Marrea bemoaned the default settings on her Debian 5 &lt;br /&gt;
box which limited her to a paltry 800x600, and Roseway concurred. &lt;br /&gt;
The thread quickly shifted to the problem of distro updates trashing &lt;br /&gt;
xorg.conf and leaving stumped users scratching their chins and &lt;br /&gt;
staring at a command line... [2]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[1] &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.linuxformat.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&amp;amp;file=viewtopic&amp;amp;t=9852&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.linuxformat.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&amp;amp;file=viewtopic&amp;amp;t=9852&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[2] &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.linuxformat.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&amp;amp;file=viewtopic&amp;amp;t=9914&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.linuxformat.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&amp;amp;file=viewtopic&amp;amp;t=9914&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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THE MAGIC BEHIND EXT4&lt;br /&gt;
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Filesystems - hardly the most glamorous topic in the world, right? &lt;br /&gt;
But we all use them, and they're of absolute critical importance to &lt;br /&gt;
the workings of our machines. One tiny bug or poorly-programmed &lt;br /&gt;
feature can cause your box to grind to a halt, or even worse, &lt;br /&gt;
destroy your precious data. So it's worth knowing a bit about the &lt;br /&gt;
fundamental technology and what lies ahead.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Filesystems coordinate the data on your hard drive partitions, &lt;br /&gt;
making sure that filenames point to the appropriate chunks of data &lt;br /&gt;
and have the correct access permissions etc. There's a gigantic &lt;br /&gt;
range of filesystems in use, from the simple FAT12 on MS-DOS floppy &lt;br /&gt;
disks to monsters like SGI's XFS which can store files of up to 8 &lt;br /&gt;
exabytes in size (8 quintillion bytes, fact fans).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Originally, Linux used the same filesystem as Minix, the Unix-like &lt;br /&gt;
OS that originally inspired its development. Then ext (the extended &lt;br /&gt;
filesystem) was used as the default, quickly being replaced by ext2 &lt;br /&gt;
which allowed for longer filenames and larger files. ext3 added&lt;br /&gt;
journalling - that is, writing file change notes to a 'journal' &lt;br /&gt;
before writing the file itself, to make your filesystem more&lt;br /&gt;
resilient in the event of a kernel crash or power-cut.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Now ext4 is here and looks set to be the default filesystem for many &lt;br /&gt;
future distro releases. Here are some of the new features and why &lt;br /&gt;
they'll make Linux even cooler:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1) Bigger everything&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ext4 will support 1 exabyte volumes, 16 terabyte files and 64,000 &lt;br /&gt;
subdirectories (breaking the already whopping 32,000 limit in ext3). &lt;br /&gt;
This isn't going to change the world for home desktop users (unless &lt;br /&gt;
you like to keep several versions of OpenOffice.org on your machine &lt;br /&gt;
at once), but it'll further push Linux into the realms of big iron.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2) Delayed allocation&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Normally, when you save a file, the filesystem allocates a number of &lt;br /&gt;
blocks (chunks of the disk) in advance to save the file. It then &lt;br /&gt;
waits around until there's lots of data to save - ie from other &lt;br /&gt;
programs - before writing the whole lot at once. This adds a &lt;br /&gt;
performance boost because as the disk isn't doing lots of little &lt;br /&gt;
scattered writes, but writing one whole lump at once.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
With ext4, the filesystem doesn't allocate space until it's actually &lt;br /&gt;
ready for the writing job. This reduces fragmentation (files being &lt;br /&gt;
spread across separate chunks of the disk instead of being together &lt;br /&gt;
in one lump). The upside to this is that for hard drives, the &lt;br /&gt;
reading head part of the machinery doesn't have to scuttle around as &lt;br /&gt;
much, thereby improving performance further.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3) Faster file system checking&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A normal 'fsck' filesystem check operation scans every block of data &lt;br /&gt;
on the drive, whether it's in use or not. ext4 has the ability to &lt;br /&gt;
only check blocks that are actually in use, thereby making &lt;br /&gt;
filesystem checks much quicker.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
4) Extents&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A great feature for high-end machines: in anticipation of a large &lt;br /&gt;
file write, ext4 can pre-allocate a section of the disk to a file, &lt;br /&gt;
thereby reducing fragmentation. As with the second feature here, &lt;br /&gt;
this will also give a valuable boost to performance.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
5) Life beyond 2038&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ext2 and ext3 store dates as the number of seconds passed since &lt;br /&gt;
00:00, January 1 1970. These are stored in 32-bit integer numbers, &lt;br /&gt;
which means that come 03:14:08 on 19 January 2038, the numbers will &lt;br /&gt;
overflow and revert back to 1970. Gulp. It's a bit like the &lt;br /&gt;
much-hyped millennium bug, and while it may seem a long time away, &lt;br /&gt;
Unix-like systems are often planned to last for decades.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ext4 improves this by adding more data space (two extra bits) to the &lt;br /&gt;
time field, thereby deferring the problem for 500 extra years. We'll &lt;br /&gt;
all probably be using The HURD by then, anyway.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
6) ext3 compatible!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To top it off: unless you're using the extents functionality, you &lt;br /&gt;
can mount an ext4 partition on an older machine that only supports &lt;br /&gt;
ext3.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So those are some of the top features of ext4, leading to better &lt;br /&gt;
performance on everyone's boxes, and more scope for ultra high-end &lt;br /&gt;
servers. Keep an eye out on your favourite distro - it may well be &lt;br /&gt;
included very soon...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
Linux Format 119, on sale Thursday 30 April...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  # Work smarter! Linux has heaps of tools to make you more&lt;br /&gt;
    productive, and we show you how to find them&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  # Time to switch to Slack? The world's longest-running&lt;br /&gt;
    distro still has plenty of fans, and you may just&lt;br /&gt;
    fall in love with it too...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  # Control your bandwidth with Trickle, and ensure that&lt;br /&gt;
    no single program hogs your network connection&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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Contents are subject to change, and may settle in transit.&lt;br /&gt;
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