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                                        <title>Re: Iced Tea conundrum</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=60'&gt;Rhakios&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:56 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;catgate wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
(thank you Rhakios).&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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It's a modern computerological miracle! So I'll pretend that I'm entitled to take the credit, cheers!</description>
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                                        <author>Rhakios</author>
                                        <pubDate>Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:56 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Iced Tea conundrum</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=8707'&gt;catgate&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:27 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      So....&lt;br /&gt;
After fiddling with 12.04  and getting back to &amp;quot;classic&amp;quot; I followed the sage's advice and wiped the contents of each file in .icedtea.&lt;br /&gt;
The world did not end and when I clicked on applications/accessories/help help came up quite happily.&lt;br /&gt;
(thank you Rhakios).</description>
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                                        <author>catgate</author>
                                        <pubDate>Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:27 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Iced Tea conundrum</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=8707'&gt;catgate&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:46 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Quote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&amp;quot;... if I can find the map.&amp;quot;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It was a very easy path to tread. Installing &amp;quot;gnome shell&amp;quot; was all that was required, followed by a change to the &amp;quot;log in&amp;quot; routine.&lt;br /&gt;
The &amp;quot;.icedtea&amp;quot; nonsence remains, but I shall follow the advice of the sage and just wipe the contents of each folder in &amp;quot;.icedtea&amp;quot;.</description>
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                                        <author>catgate</author>
                                        <pubDate>Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:46 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Iced Tea conundrum</title>
                                        <link>http://linuxformat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=110373#110373</link>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=130'&gt;Ram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:07 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;catgate wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Rhakios wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;Well, it could be that their speed testing site works through a browser app that uses Java. As Java is platform independent, Linux support isn't the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Personally, I'd just delete the bl**dy thing.&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you for that kind sir. It is the down-to-earth sort advice I like.&lt;br /&gt;
Actually I have just done the upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 and, as I was hoping for, it appears to have gone without a hitch. Although, I was hoping that by now there would have been enough fellow luddites to have ensured an abandonement of the &amp;quot;NEW IMPROVED&amp;quot; GNU format (if that is the proper term).&lt;br /&gt;
I did a dummy run on a spare machine last summer and managed to get rid of it, but it looks as though I shall have to retread the path.... if I can find the map.&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Partly O/T &lt;br /&gt;
I also did the upgrade last weekend on my Laptop, but could I find my installed app... no. Installed LXDE and all my app were listed in menu has I'd expected... No Unity for me &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_smile.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Smile&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;</description>
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                                        <author>Ram</author>
                                        <pubDate>Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:07 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Iced Tea conundrum</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=8707'&gt;catgate&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:38 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Rhakios wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;Well, it could be that their speed testing site works through a browser app that uses Java. As Java is platform independent, Linux support isn't the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Personally, I'd just delete the bl**dy thing.&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you for that kind sir. It is the down-to-earth sort advice I like.&lt;br /&gt;
Actually I have just done the upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 and, as I was hoping for, it appears to have gone without a hitch. Although, I was hoping that by now there would have been enough fellow luddites to have ensured an abandonement of the &amp;quot;NEW IMPROVED&amp;quot; GNU format (if that is the proper term).&lt;br /&gt;
I did a dummy run on a spare machine last summer and managed to get rid of it, but it looks as though I shall have to retread the path.... if I can find the map.</description>
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                                        <author>catgate</author>
                                        <pubDate>Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:38 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Iced Tea conundrum</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=60'&gt;Rhakios&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:15 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Well, it could be that their speed testing site works through a browser app that uses Java. As Java is platform independent, Linux support isn't the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Personally, I'd just delete the bl**dy thing.</description>
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                                        <author>Rhakios</author>
                                        <pubDate>Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:15 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Iced Tea conundrum</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=8707'&gt;catgate&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:55 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Having finished the cupboards in the conservatory I have been allowed to get back to this little bit of silliness.&lt;br /&gt;
I have determined that file &amp;quot;/home/catgate/.icedtea/cache/recently_used&amp;quot; was created automatically, presumably by BT, during some trouble I had with speed (no not the Huhne type, nor the other mind affecting type) over the Christmas period and into the new year.&lt;br /&gt;
The entire contents of  &amp;quot;/home/catgate/.icedtea/cache&amp;quot; consists of five directories containing subdirectories and files relating to BT speed testing, and a file called &amp;quot;recently_used&amp;quot; containing this:-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
#automatically generated - do not edit&lt;br /&gt;
#Mon Dec 24 10:12:15 GMT 2012&lt;br /&gt;
last-modified=1350773238000&lt;br /&gt;
content-length=84044&lt;br /&gt;
last-updated=1356301807418&lt;br /&gt;
delete=true&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I am a bit puzzled (well a lot puzzled) because every time I have been in touch with BT they constantly proudly proclaim &amp;quot;We do not support Linux.&amp;quot; So how do they manage to create files on my system? Or is it clever Linux that does it on its own initiative?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Should I shake a six and pass GO.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I should have added that I tried the renaming trick to no avail.</description>
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                                        <author>catgate</author>
                                        <pubDate>Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:55 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Iced Tea conundrum</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=5'&gt;nelz&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:40 am&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Removing and reinstalling won't affect files in your home directory. You could try renaming ~/.icedtea and trying again.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You could also try creating a new user and seeing if they have the same problem. That would help indicate whether it is a fault with your configuration files in ~.</description>
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                                        <author>nelz</author>
                                        <pubDate>Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:40 am</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Iced Tea conundrum</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=8707'&gt;catgate&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:45 am&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;nelz wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;Icedtea &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;is&lt;/span&gt; Jave. It is an alternative to Sun's JRE.&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you for that enlightenment, nelz. That is another pool of light shed into my dark morass of ignorance.&lt;br /&gt;
This suggests to me that removing icedtea and then reinstalling it might correct things.......or this more from the morass?</description>
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                                        <author>catgate</author>
                                        <pubDate>Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:45 am</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Iced Tea conundrum</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=5'&gt;nelz&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:20 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Icedtea &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;is&lt;/span&gt; Jave. It is an alternative to Sun's JRE.</description>
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                                        <author>nelz</author>
                                        <pubDate>Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:20 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Iced Tea conundrum</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=8707'&gt;catgate&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:50 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic&quot;&gt;(“iced tea” as I have found out the help function is called)&lt;/span&gt; just shows what a mess my mind was in when I was trying to figure it all out.&lt;br /&gt;
After further cogitation it seems to my possibly defective logic that the onscreen Help function is run using Java and Icedtea has found something with which it is not happy.&lt;br /&gt;
In view of the reply by &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;johnhudson&lt;/span&gt; is it possible that there is some sort of bug in my &amp;quot;icedtea&amp;quot;?</description>
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                                        <author>catgate</author>
                                        <pubDate>Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:50 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Iced Tea conundrum</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2464'&gt;johnhudson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:55 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      This software appeared on my system some time ago but the only time it popped up was earlier this week when I was using chromium to connect to a web seminar. The cache now contains the details of this seminar link and nothing else.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The security folder contains a list of certificates. So my hunch is that it will automatically be installed with an up-to-date set of certificates anyway if you upgrade/reinstall.</description>
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                                        <author>johnhudson</author>
                                        <pubDate>Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:55 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Iced Tea conundrum</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=8707'&gt;catgate&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:30 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      When I click on the &amp;quot;lifebelt&amp;quot; on the top screen panel (“iced tea” as I have found out the help function is called) I get a message that says :-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic&quot;&gt;Failed to execute child process &amp;quot;/home/catgate/.icedtea/cache/recently_used&amp;quot; (Permission denied)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Since I use this  facilty so infrequently I have never seen this before and do not have the slightest idea what it means. (I use this facility so infrequently not because I do not need help but rather because I often have difficulty in understanding what is telling me.)&lt;br /&gt;
I have looked into &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic&quot;&gt;&amp;quot;/home/catgate/.icedtea/cache&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt; and can not find&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic&quot;&gt; /recently_used&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
I am screwing up my courage to ugrade to Ubuntu 12.04 from 10.04 and so I would like to have things “ship shape” before I plunge in. So if someone could explain what it all means and what to do about it (even if it just “ignore it”) I would be most chuffed. &lt;br /&gt;
Thank you.</description>
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                                        <author>catgate</author>
                                        <pubDate>Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:30 pm</pubDate>
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