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                                        <title>LXF Website Newsletter -- #4, September 2005</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=252'&gt;M-Saunders&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:12 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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       LINUX FORMAT WEBSITE NEWSLETTER -- #4, SEPTEMBER 2005&lt;br /&gt;
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                    &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.linuxformat.co.uk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.linuxformat.co.uk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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CONTENTS&lt;br /&gt;
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    1. Welcome!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    2. Sneak preview of LXF 72&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    3. In the news...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    4. This month on the forum&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    5. Special newsletter feature&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    6. Coming up next issue&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    7. Receiving this newsletter&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    8. Contact details&lt;br /&gt;
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                            1. Welcome!&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
Welcome to the September LXF Online newsletter -- our monthly&lt;br /&gt;
roundup of activity on the website, along with a sample of the&lt;br /&gt;
upcoming issue and some extra features too. Development on the&lt;br /&gt;
website continues unabated: following the addition of these&lt;br /&gt;
Newsletters, the LXF Team Blog, previews of upcoming issues and&lt;br /&gt;
various other new goodies, we're about to launch the LXF Wiki. Those&lt;br /&gt;
of you who visited our website many moons ago may remember the&lt;br /&gt;
original Wiki, where readers collaborated on Linux-related info (and&lt;br /&gt;
completely off-topic musings).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That content has been transferred across to a new Wiki system that's&lt;br /&gt;
almost ready to go. What can you use it for? Well, just about&lt;br /&gt;
anything, as long as it has some relation to Linux, open source,&lt;br /&gt;
computing or geekdom in general. Even Pot Noodles -- after all,&lt;br /&gt;
they're a staple geek food. After registering a username (takes 10&lt;br /&gt;
seconds) you can edit and create pages at your will, so hopefully&lt;br /&gt;
we'll build up a good resource of Linuxish information.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The LXF Wiki will go live in a few days -- but as loyal newsletter&lt;br /&gt;
readers, you can check it out in advance here:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/wiki/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/wiki/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Also in this newsletter: a peek at what's to come in LXF72; the&lt;br /&gt;
latest news in nutshellised format; a guide to getting involved in&lt;br /&gt;
an open source project; and much more.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Enjoy,&lt;br /&gt;
Mike&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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                    2. Sneak preview of LXF 72&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
Linux Format issue 72 hits the shop shelves tomorrow -- you'll be&lt;br /&gt;
able to identify it by the trailing vortexes coming off the corners.&lt;br /&gt;
Yes, LXF72 is all about speed, and how to make your Linux box&lt;br /&gt;
faster. We have a whopping 72 Speedup Tips feature covering all&lt;br /&gt;
aspects of Linux (desktop, server, booting etc.) along with Gentoo&lt;br /&gt;
on the coverdiscs. No matter what you use Linux for, you'll find&lt;br /&gt;
something in the feature that'll give your system extra pace.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Also in the mag: we speak to Michael Meeks, a Gnome and&lt;br /&gt;
OpenOffice.org coder currently working for Novell. Michael explains&lt;br /&gt;
how a squabble with God led him to ditch his pirated Windows&lt;br /&gt;
versions and adopt the cleaner Linux life. The new Podcasting fad is&lt;br /&gt;
explained in our regular What on Earth feature, while PDF readers&lt;br /&gt;
are put under the spotlight in our Roundup. Also, Graham Morrison&lt;br /&gt;
describes the highs and lows of running an open source project in&lt;br /&gt;
our special mini-feature.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Reviews include the Doom 3 Resurrection of Evil expansion pack,&lt;br /&gt;
MainActor 5.5, Qt 4 and a bunch of books. In our tutorials, we&lt;br /&gt;
examine blending and embossing techniques in The GIMP, setting up a&lt;br /&gt;
printer, and customising the gargantuanly powerful Emacs editor.&lt;br /&gt;
Here's a sample of the questions we asked Michael Meeks in the&lt;br /&gt;
interview; the answers will appear on the site in a few days...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 # How did you first get involved with Gnome?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 # Can anything be done to speed up OpenOffice.org startup time?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 # Let's look to the future: can Cairo live up to the hype?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Grab a copy of LXF72 for the full interview. As always, we have our&lt;br /&gt;
regular HotPicks section in issue 72, where we search the Net for&lt;br /&gt;
the best new and updated apps, giving them some well-deserved&lt;br /&gt;
coverage. One of the games this month takes the venerable Pong to a&lt;br /&gt;
whole new level -- yes, it's Pong2 (Pong squared):&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  # Pong2 -- Dimensionally enhanced bat 'n ball game&lt;br /&gt;
    &lt;a href=&quot;http://pong2.berlios.de&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://pong2.berlios.de&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  If LXF suddenly assumed Grand Control of the Universe, our first&lt;br /&gt;
  edict would be to outlaw rehashes of worn-out classics. There's&lt;br /&gt;
  pushing an old formula to the limits, and then there's beating a&lt;br /&gt;
  dead horse for hours and hours until passers-by call the police.&lt;br /&gt;
  Lest we not speak of the atrocities committed by software houses&lt;br /&gt;
  when Sellotaping rubbish concepts-du-jour onto near-perfect games&lt;br /&gt;
  (hello again, Tetrisphere), but with Pong2, where perhaps the most&lt;br /&gt;
  simplistic game has been jazzed up with polygonal trimmings, we'll&lt;br /&gt;
  have to let them off.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  Pong2 is a 'fast quadratic Pong action' game. Try not to barf: it&lt;br /&gt;
  actually makes sense. Sort of. To compile, you'll need the SDL and&lt;br /&gt;
  SDL_net libraries, along with OpenGL - it should go without a&lt;br /&gt;
  hitch on most distros. Pong2 expects two players competing over&lt;br /&gt;
  the network, although you can opt for a single player training&lt;br /&gt;
  mode against the enigmatic 'Mr Wand' who cannot be beaten. Still,&lt;br /&gt;
  it gives you the opportunity to familiarise yourself with the&lt;br /&gt;
  camera angles and ball control.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  Studies have shown that single-cell life forms know how to play&lt;br /&gt;
  Pong, so we'll skip the details. In essence, Pong2 inflates the&lt;br /&gt;
  playing area into 3D; you have to keep track of left-and-right&lt;br /&gt;
  movements as well as up-and-down. Moving your bat around with the&lt;br /&gt;
  mouse in the psychedelic arena, you can opt between various&lt;br /&gt;
  display modes which keep the screen still or follow with the&lt;br /&gt;
  mouse. As with some third-person driving games, it's a tad fiddly&lt;br /&gt;
  when both your orientation and the object you control are in&lt;br /&gt;
  movement at the same time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  Pleasingly, you can apply spin to the ball by sweeping your bat&lt;br /&gt;
  across it, but the lack of any sound effects or background ditties&lt;br /&gt;
  is something of a shame. Nevertheless, even though it's only Pong&lt;br /&gt;
  with an extra dimension dropped in, it's sufficiently demanding of&lt;br /&gt;
  mouse control and response to make victory all the more&lt;br /&gt;
  satisfying. Another play on an ancient game, then, but not worthy&lt;br /&gt;
  of five years solitary just yet. But please, no more.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  # SCREENSHOT -- &lt;a href=&quot;http://msa.section.me.uk/pong2.png&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://msa.section.me.uk/pong2.png&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
    Colour overload -- feast your eyes on the ball reflection&lt;br /&gt;
    on the bottom and right sides.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As usual, there're five and a half more pages of HotPicks in 72,&lt;br /&gt;
including a look at the revolutionary bootup script replacement&lt;br /&gt;
InitNG, and video disc authoring suite Tovid.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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                        3. In the news...&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
A good month for international Linux adoption, and a few new&lt;br /&gt;
software releases too. Here're the highlights...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  # Indonesia chooses Linux as standard desktop&lt;br /&gt;
    &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&amp;amp;name=News&amp;amp;file=article&amp;amp;sid=97&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&amp;amp;name=News&amp;amp;file=article&amp;amp;sid=97&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
International Linux adoption continues to grow. On the 15th,&lt;br /&gt;
Indonesia's Ministry of Research and Technology announced that it&lt;br /&gt;
will use Sun's Java Desktop System as it's national standard OS. The&lt;br /&gt;
Ministry will enhance and rebrand JDS, with support from Sun. This&lt;br /&gt;
is another big gain for JDS -- in the last few years Sun has&lt;br /&gt;
announced major deals with the Chinese, Japanese and UK governments.&lt;br /&gt;
Read more at: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS3370503002.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS3370503002.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  # GNOME 2.12.0 released&lt;br /&gt;
    &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&amp;amp;name=News&amp;amp;file=article&amp;amp;sid=92&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&amp;amp;name=News&amp;amp;file=article&amp;amp;sid=92&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Right on time, GNOME 2.12.0 hit the download mirrors, bringing about&lt;br /&gt;
new features, bugfixes and performance tweaks. See the announcement&lt;br /&gt;
here. Clearlooks is now the default theme, and a major new addition&lt;br /&gt;
is the Evince document viewer. Check out the release notes for the&lt;br /&gt;
full details at: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnome.org/start/2.12/notes/en/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.gnome.org/start/2.12/notes/en/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  # Major distro releases approaching&lt;br /&gt;
    &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&amp;amp;name=News&amp;amp;file=article&amp;amp;sid=93&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&amp;amp;name=News&amp;amp;file=article&amp;amp;sid=93&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Mandriva and SUSE have made available release candidates for their&lt;br /&gt;
upcoming distros. Mandriva 2006 RC1 could be the only RC before the&lt;br /&gt;
distro goes gold; meanwhile SUSE 10.0 RC1, based on the OpenSUSE&lt;br /&gt;
project, is making good progress too. And with Ubuntu Breezy due&lt;br /&gt;
shortly, it's going to be a lively couple of months for new distros&lt;br /&gt;
to try out!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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                   4. This month on the forum&lt;br /&gt;
     ----------------------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Linux vs Mac OS X -- a controversial issue. Many would agree that&lt;br /&gt;
Apple's work on snazzifying the Mac OS GUI has brought it plenty of&lt;br /&gt;
new fans, but at the same time, it's still a mostly proprietary OS&lt;br /&gt;
on a single-vendor platform. 'phil_m' asked if anyone else had made&lt;br /&gt;
the switch from Linux to Mac OS; there followed an intriguing&lt;br /&gt;
discussion with points from both sides put forward. LXF writer Andy&lt;br /&gt;
Channelle wasn't chuffed that Mac OS users have to buy entire OS&lt;br /&gt;
upgrades just to get some new software (such as Safari). [1]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Boot woes explained. A special mention should go out this month to&lt;br /&gt;
forum regular 'bigjohn' for his extensive description of Linux&lt;br /&gt;
bootloaders. A reader was having trouble working out the boot&lt;br /&gt;
process and mounting drives -- 'bigjohn' provided a huge stack of&lt;br /&gt;
information which is well worth reading if you're new to Linux. [2]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the Programming forum, 'chris_debian' asked if there was a&lt;br /&gt;
central place for people to get started in open source software&lt;br /&gt;
development. Andy Hudson and 'RD' pointed to pages on Sourceforge&lt;br /&gt;
and the Fedora project, and Chris said he'd take a look. Which leads&lt;br /&gt;
us to our feature this month... [3]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[1] &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&amp;amp;file=viewtopic&amp;amp;t=1031&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&amp;amp;file=viewtopic&amp;amp;t=1031&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[2] &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&amp;amp;file=viewtopic&amp;amp;t=1121&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&amp;amp;file=viewtopic&amp;amp;t=1121&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[3] &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&amp;amp;file=viewtopic&amp;amp;t=1157&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&amp;amp;file=viewtopic&amp;amp;t=1157&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                    5. Special newsletter feature&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
GETTING STARTED IN AN OPEN SOURCE PROJECT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the questions we're most frequently asked at LXF is: &quot;How do&lt;br /&gt;
I get involved in or start an open source project?&quot;. Even if you've&lt;br /&gt;
got all the coding talent in the world, it's often hard to find an&lt;br /&gt;
entry point with so many people and projects doing the rounds.&lt;br /&gt;
Fortunately, once you're familiar with some of the conventions of&lt;br /&gt;
open source, it's quite easy to get started. Here's a quick guide:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  1. Find the right project&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  If you're interested in working on, say, an email client, browse&lt;br /&gt;
  freshmeat.net and search for emailers. You'll bring up a list of&lt;br /&gt;
  potential projects -- when you've found something that suits you,&lt;br /&gt;
  visit its home page and see how development is progressing. Some&lt;br /&gt;
  apps haven't been updated in years; others are booming and may not&lt;br /&gt;
  have room for extra developers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  If it looks like an active project that could do with some help,&lt;br /&gt;
  drop the lead developer a line by email, or try to chat to him/her&lt;br /&gt;
  on IM/IRC. Introduce yourself and how you could help with the&lt;br /&gt;
  project's progress -- eg in programming, testing, docs etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  If you don't find anything that floats your boat, you could always&lt;br /&gt;
  start your own project. However, this is much more demanding, and&lt;br /&gt;
  unless you're doing something highly innovative or striking, it's&lt;br /&gt;
  often hard to get other developers on board. Still, it's always&lt;br /&gt;
  worth a try -- set up a sourceforge.net page, make some&lt;br /&gt;
  announcements to freshmeat.net and see what happens...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  2. Choose a license&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  If you're joining an existing project, chances are you won't have&lt;br /&gt;
  much say in the license -- it'll already have been decided.&lt;br /&gt;
  Conversely, if you're setting up something on your own, you can&lt;br /&gt;
  choose between a multitude of licenses. The GNU GPL (free to copy,&lt;br /&gt;
  but source must remain open) is the most popular license for Linux&lt;br /&gt;
  software, although BSD (do what you like except claim you wrote&lt;br /&gt;
  it) is good for code which may be useful in proprietary apps.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  3. Decide on a name&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  Again, this only really applies if you're starting your own&lt;br /&gt;
  project. Don't be afraid to use a strange or unfamiliar name --&lt;br /&gt;
  as long as it's catchy and easy to pronounce, people will like it.&lt;br /&gt;
  Firefox is an example of an unusual but catchy name, whereas&lt;br /&gt;
  OpenOffice.org is clumsy to type and say. Resist the urge to make&lt;br /&gt;
  a pun on a commercial app's name, as you could get into legal&lt;br /&gt;
  bothers later.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  4. Work with other developers&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  Working as a team is vital in any open source project of&lt;br /&gt;
  reasonable size. Make it clear what you're planning to do (to&lt;br /&gt;
  avoid duplication of effort) and give constructive feedback to&lt;br /&gt;
  other developers. Even if someone's personality gets on your wick,&lt;br /&gt;
  try to resist flaming -- after all, it's not the Super Happy&lt;br /&gt;
  Friends club. Even if someone is a pain in the neck socially, they&lt;br /&gt;
  could still contribute valuable code to your project.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  5. Promote your project&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  Without doubt, freshmeat.net is the best place to make&lt;br /&gt;
  announcements about new releases of your software. This site is&lt;br /&gt;
  tracked by many other places on the Web, and users can choose to&lt;br /&gt;
  follow the progress of particular apps. If you're part of a large&lt;br /&gt;
  team and the app is well known, you could try making an&lt;br /&gt;
  announcement on Slashdot or OSNews -- a good way to get feedback&lt;br /&gt;
  in the comments sections. And of course there's always LXF Online,&lt;br /&gt;
  either on the front page (Submit News) or the Announcements forum.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  6. Have fun!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  Few open source projects achieve the ginormous popularity of&lt;br /&gt;
  Firefox and co, and few programmers make squillions of pounds from&lt;br /&gt;
  it, but nonetheless it's a rewarding experience. If your project&lt;br /&gt;
  is used by a few hundred people, it's something you can put on&lt;br /&gt;
  your CV. Getting involved with an open source project, or running&lt;br /&gt;
  one, is a great way to get more experience of coding, people&lt;br /&gt;
  management, marketing and much more.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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                      6. Coming up next issue&lt;br /&gt;
     ----------------------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Linux Format 73 -- on sale Tuesday 18th October&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 # Crack the kernel -- Deep inside your distro is a powerhouse&lt;br /&gt;
   waiting to get out. We show you what's coming up in next&lt;br /&gt;
   year's kernel, and how you can start using it now...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 # The LXF Interview: Eben Moglen -- Short, bearded and jolly:&lt;br /&gt;
   you might think of Santa Claus, but Eben advocates free&lt;br /&gt;
   software, not free presents, for all.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 # SUSE 10 vs Mandriva 2006 -- Two top distros on test to find&lt;br /&gt;
   out whether Mandriva really is 1996 versions better than SUSE.&lt;br /&gt;
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