Linux Format forums

Re: Elite -- barrier to entry?

Ram — Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:59 am

Author: Ram

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:59 am

Just installed it from the repos and it wont run.

Latest version from the site works and I can also use a xbox360 controller.

Re: Elite -- barrier to entry?

elija — Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:53 am

Author: elija

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:53 am

Oops! I've corrected the link, thanks.

The version in the repos, certainly for LMDE, is quite old and it has come on a long way.

[edit]Just checked the Mint 11 repos and it's still the older version[/edit]

Re: Elite -- barrier to entry?

Ram — Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:48 am

Author: Ram

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:48 am

Elija, your link is incorrect it should be .org not .net.

http://www.oolite.org

Just checked and it's in ubuntu 10.04 lts repos.

Re: Elite -- barrier to entry?

elija — Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:43 am

Author: elija

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:43 am

I've been playing Oolite (www.oolite.org) recently as it is more up to date version of Elite. As far as I remember from the C64 and Atari versions it's pretty accurate; although they have made docking a bit easier.

Now if only someone would do the same for Frontier, I'd never leave the house again -_-

Re: Elite -- barrier to entry?

M-Saunders — Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:04 am

Author: M-Saunders

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:04 am

Interesting. In Frontier you rarely got attacked by multiple ships at the same time, unless you were messing around with the police or doing photo/nuclear bomb missions. It was quite cool to be dogfighting with three pirates in Elite. I just wish that only happened in anarchic systems, instead of supposedly comfortable trade routes!

M

Re: Elite -- barrier to entry?

Brian Hunter — Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:25 pm

Author: Brian Hunter

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:25 pm

The Wikipedia entry for Elite does mention that the game did differ from platform to platform, but there is no mention of changes in difficulty, just things like fewer ships and the like.

The Frontier Wiki did mention that some accused the game of being boring, and quite slow compared to Elite, so maybe that's it? Perhaps in Elite you can expect to get a bit of a kicking. Never played Elite, just Frontier, so I have no actual experience on it.

Re: Elite -- barrier to entry?

Brian Hunter — Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:07 pm

Author: Brian Hunter

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:07 pm

awwwyeah.jpg

Re: Elite -- barrier to entry?

M-Saunders — Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:08 pm

Author: M-Saunders

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:08 pm

Brian Hunter wrote:

Problem with spectrum? Sorry, i'd like to help, but I can't hear you over all these amazing sounds my C64 is making.

trollface.jpg

Re: Elite -- barrier to entry?

Brian Hunter — Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:03 am

Author: Brian Hunter

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:03 am

Problem with spectrum? Sorry, i'd like to help, but I can't hear you over all these amazing sounds my C64 is making.

Re: Elite -- barrier to entry?

guy — Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:51 pm

Author: guy

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:51 pm

AndyBaxman wrote:

guy wrote:

The Speccy version was said not to be as good as the BBC original - cutting it down to fit in 48k apparently took too much away and upset the balance of the game.

That'd be cutting it down to 48k from, errrrm, 32k?

Well the graphics were certainly cut down to work with the Speccy's more limited capabilities. My Model B+ had 64K, forgot the earlier ones had less. But I do also recall whinges about the gameplay. Perhaps that was down to something else in the conversion - lack of decent MOUS hardware perhaps?

Re: Elite -- barrier to entry?

AndyBaxman — Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:04 pm

Author: AndyBaxman

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:04 pm

guy wrote:

The Speccy version was said not to be as good as the BBC original - cutting it down to fit in 48k apparently took too much away and upset the balance of the game.

That'd be cutting it down to 48k from, errrrm, 32k?

Re: Elite -- barrier to entry?

heiowge — Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:46 pm

Author: heiowge

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:46 pm

I remember getting p***ed off with docking. I tended to just jump into a system, blast the hell out of whatever I was near, then eject when it got too hot. Once in the station, I'd just buy everything again.

Oooo... I loved cheating.

Re: Elite -- barrier to entry?

guy — Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:44 pm

Author: guy

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:44 pm

The Speccy version was said not to be as good as the BBC original - cutting it down to fit in 48k apparently took too much away and upset the balance of the game. I remember the BBC version coming with a bunch of "starter" characters with varying levels of kit. Being too old to hone my reflexes at the tender age of 30, auto docking was essential (I only ever succeeded once in docking manually) and I was always getting blasted to bits by pirates. My teenage neighbours laughed like drains and told me I needed to learn how to suss out the safer places to be, but I never could. So there, not a very helpful post really.

Re: Elite -- barrier to entry?

AndyBaxman — Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:34 pm

Author: AndyBaxman

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:34 pm

M-Saunders wrote:

Every system I've been to, I've been attacked. Occasionally I'll find some "rich industrial corporate system" where I get to the space station without incident, and decide to use that for trading. The next time I come back, I get my rear end kicked by three pirates at once.

I usually found an agricultural democracy near to an industrial democracy and hopped between them. You shouldn't be jumped by pirates (much), doing that, and those that do jump you are usually easy to kill, even with pulse lasers.

Re: Elite -- barrier to entry?

Ram — Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:39 am

Author: Ram

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:39 am

M-Saunders wrote:

AndyBaxman wrote:

From what I remember about Elite, the trick was to start by trading around safe systems until you have earned enough cash to buy some useful upgrades

But that's the thing -- I can't find these safe systems. Every system I've been to, I've been attacked. Occasionally I'll find some "rich industrial corporate system" where I get to the space station without incident, and decide to use that for trading. The next time I come back, I get my rear end kicked by three pirates at once.

Maybe it's just the Speccy version, but I can't find any "safe" systems. Strangely enough, I find manual docking dead easy, even though most people say that's the hardest part!

M

So the speccy got easy docking and hard trading.... lol